Advice for harbour raids

PavelKirilovich · 02-08-08, 03:43 PM

Loch Ewes in late 1941 requires a close-to-the-coast approach at ahead one third. You can get to the mouth of the bay surfaced, then dive to periscope depth in a calm sea (otherwise your tower will broach) and creep in at ahead slow.

Escort carrier, four destroyers, T3 tanker, and sometimes a Dido-class. Haven't tried penetrating the harbour in mid-1942 (two raids only, late '41 and early '42) so I don't know when they move on to a better harbour or when Scapa Flow decides to relocate down to Ewes, increasing the ASW presence there hugely.

There's a small island on one side of the bay and a narrow band of water on the landward side of it. You can run in there and it'll narrow the angles that destroyers can come after you, but be aware of the gun emplacements. I found my least stressful operations in that area involved staying out of that small segment and simply creeping ahead to within 500m of my target before launching a torpedo at magazines / engine spaces and going silent for a creep away towards the next target.

Remember: If you can break contact, why not break contact towards your next objective? Don't let those ASWs drive you off if they're herding you in towards the ship next on your "To Sink" list.

Fenris_Wolf · 02-08-08, 03:52 PM

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what advice can you offer to fellow Kaleuns who wish to follow in your footsteps?

Sink them all

Oh, and go in playing the bagpipes tune! lol

gordonmull · 02-08-08, 04:22 PM

My advice...

Don't follow in my footsteps! Every time I sail into an enemy harbour I die a slow death on the shallow bottom

Marriott · 02-08-08, 04:29 PM

I've raided Loch Ewe in 1939, in GWX 2.0 it was easy to get in, with only a few ASW trawlers patrolling and maybe one destroyer. Because it was so early in the war there were a number of neutrals but i still managed to sink 5 enemy ships (4 merchants, 1 ASW trawler) I have also raided the port in the Faroe Islands but other then a few docked warships and a couple of puny fishing trawlers not much there. I raided that port in late 1940.

Myszkin · 02-08-08, 05:06 PM

Southend (november 1939) - some merchants and...large troop ship (ex ocean liner) - ca. 25 000 BRT. Be aware of sub net and many escort vessels!

Hartlepool (january 1940) - only four vessels (small and medium merchants) + armed trawler and destroyer as a harbour guards.

Blacklight · 02-09-08, 02:04 AM

Lock Ewe and Scapa Flow are a cakewalk in 1939 if the weather is good and you stay slow and submerged. I never harbor raid from 1940 on. WAY too dangerous.

Kaptain Hans Wolf · 02-09-08, 02:46 AM

loch ewe is great, in late 39 i managed to sink the battleship nelson for 33,000 tons. how ever in the later years, its nearly suicidal trying to get into ports.

a2oth · 03-19-08, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacklight

Lock Ewe and Scapa Flow are a cakewalk in 1939 if the weather is good and you stay slow and submerged. I never harbor raid from 1940 on. WAY too dangerous.

Took me for ever to get into Scapa Flow, and when I did----IT WAS EMPTY.

Have gon off ports a bit since.

02-08-08, 03:43 PM	#1
PavelKirilovich Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canadian Coast Posts: 123 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Loch Ewes in late 1941 requires a close-to-the-coast approach at ahead one third. You can get to the mouth of the bay surfaced, then dive to periscope depth in a calm sea (otherwise your tower will broach) and creep in at ahead slow. Escort carrier, four destroyers, T3 tanker, and sometimes a Dido-class. Haven't tried penetrating the harbour in mid-1942 (two raids only, late '41 and early '42) so I don't know when they move on to a better harbour or when Scapa Flow decides to relocate down to Ewes, increasing the ASW presence there hugely. There's a small island on one side of the bay and a narrow band of water on the landward side of it. You can run in there and it'll narrow the angles that destroyers can come after you, but be aware of the gun emplacements. I found my least stressful operations in that area involved staying out of that small segment and simply creeping ahead to within 500m of my target before launching a torpedo at magazines / engine spaces and going silent for a creep away towards the next target. Remember: If you can break contact, why not break contact towards your next objective? Don't let those ASWs drive you off if they're herding you in towards the ship next on your "To Sink" list. __________________ Winter Garden on the North Atlantic Currently: U128 (Type IXC), U180 (Type IXD2), U198 (Type IXD2) operating in the I.O. Previously: U48 (Type VIIB), U568 (Type VIIC) [Completed 1940-1945 career in Type VIIs, in the Atlantic] Running: SH3 v1.4b w/ GWX 2.1

02-08-08, 05:06 PM	#5
Myszkin Mate Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 53 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Southend (november 1939) - some merchants and...large troop ship (ex ocean liner) - ca. 25 000 BRT. Be aware of sub net and many escort vessels! Hartlepool (january 1940) - only four vessels (small and medium merchants) + armed trawler and destroyer as a harbour guards. __________________ Poland - 4th allied military power in World War II !

02-09-08, 02:04 AM	#6
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	Lock Ewe and Scapa Flow are a cakewalk in 1939 if the weather is good and you stay slow and submerged. I never harbor raid from 1940 on. WAY too dangerous. __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

02-09-08, 02:46 AM	#7
Kaptain Hans Wolf A-ganger Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 75 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	loch ewe is great, in late 39 i managed to sink the battleship nelson for 33,000 tons. how ever in the later years, its nearly suicidal trying to get into ports. __________________ Kaptain Hans Wolf U-48 Type VII B U Boot Flotilla Wegener 3 patrols 48.291 tonnes sunk "i do not know what weapons world war 3 will be fought with, but world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones"

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02-08-08, 04:22 PM	#3
gordonmull Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 269 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	My advice... Don't follow in my footsteps! Every time I sail into an enemy harbour I die a slow death on the shallow bottom

02-08-08, 04:29 PM	#4
Marriott Torpedoman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 113 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I've raided Loch Ewe in 1939, in GWX 2.0 it was easy to get in, with only a few ASW trawlers patrolling and maybe one destroyer. Because it was so early in the war there were a number of neutrals but i still managed to sink 5 enemy ships (4 merchants, 1 ASW trawler) I have also raided the port in the Faroe Islands but other then a few docked warships and a couple of puny fishing trawlers not much there. I raided that port in late 1940.