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Old 02-08-08, 09:30 AM   #1
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Living as I do in Indian country, I'll offer the native perspective that it is just two factions of wasitchu fighting over the same false god. So I offer some comments from that different perspective by John Trudell:





What both systems share is the divorcing of humanity's spirit from both their ancestors and their descendants.
Words of wisdom. Or just healthy reason, however one wants to call. Not being Indian, I do not follow the mythology of Indians, and it'S symbols and rites. But what is expressed by it and lies behind the level of symbols and rites, I always felt instinctive sympathy for. I also feel that it does not matter if thse things and things that I do follow are really completely in correspondence. It's more important that no matter where we are, we all look at the same direction to see the sun rising, or setting.

P.S. Very interesting myspace profile of yours. Looks like a very interesting life to me!
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Old 02-08-08, 10:10 AM   #2
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Living as I do in Indian country, I'll offer the native perspective that it is just two factions of wasitchu fighting over the same false god. So I offer some comments from that different perspective by John Trudell:





What both systems share is the divorcing of humanity's spirit from both their ancestors and their descendants.
Words of wisdom. Or just healthy reason, however one wants to call. Not being Indian, I do not follow the mythology of Indians, and it'S symbols and rites. But what is expressed by it and lies behind the level of symbols and rites, I always felt instinctive sympathy for. I also feel that it does not matter if thse things and things that I do follow are really completely in correspondence. It's more important that no matter where we are, we all look at the same direction to see the sun rising, or setting.

P.S. Very interesting myspace profile of yours. Looks like a very interesting life to me!
I put one of John Trudell's songs up on my publishing website at:

http://www.sandybeachpublishing.com/

From "Tribal Voice" it's called "Living In Reality"

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It took the times we didn't care about living,
To learn survivors survive whether they want or not.
It took the pain, the grief and the dying to remember,
What gets forgotten in the living.
It took the lessons of a thousand generations,
To get through the time of yesterday.
It took the joyful songs of laughter,
To last beyond today into tomorrow.
It took the fragrence of a woman's touch,
To realize brothers and sisters are never alone.
It took the joining of earth and sky,
To create, centering the universe.
Many times it takes the poet to see the larger truth.
http://www.johntrudell.com/

Regarding my myspace page, My background wallpaper is a painting of Hotei Ushu, the Zen sack-and-stick priest embodiment of Zan fullness painted by Miyamoto Musashi.
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Old 02-08-08, 12:40 PM   #3
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Archbishop of Canterbury is so liberal must be puffing on a good spliff. I rest my case.


PS: We all know he shot his bolt years ago.

PPS: He is a out of touch twit just like our government.
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Old 02-08-08, 12:43 PM   #4
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The guy's a bloody nutter, someone needs to Becket him. I have no doubt that one of the Muslims he seems to like so much will gladly do the job...
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Old 02-08-08, 01:02 PM   #5
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While I'm in the mood for a rant I like to add the church of england is liberal as well and should be bought to book.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/dmp..._answer1=61228

Hey hook hands your out of a job. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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1 Abu Hamza
35%
2 Archbishop of Canterbury
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/dmp..._answer1=61228

Hey hook hands your out of a job. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Which of these men poses the bigger threat to Britain's way of life?
1 Abu Hamza
35%
2 Archbishop of Canterbury
65%
As of 7pm today.
Poll from the same source, one week ago:

Is Rowan Williams fit to be archbishop of Canterbury?

1 Yes
9%

2 No
91%
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