Where is the USS Jimmy Carter Submarine ??

[Puster Bill]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

She is in the water.

Being chased by a killer rabbit...

[antikristuseke]

and the knights who say Ni!

[August]

Anywhere the ocean is shallow enough for a ship to drop anchor there is a chance for damage to undersea cables. Given that the gulf is one of the most travelled waterways in the entire world it is not suprising that damage would occur in that area.

Also, if one intends to tap into an undersea cable for intelligence purposes one finds a way to do so without alerting the entire world that one is doing it. To actually cut, not one but two cables, does not accomplish that objective.

But hey that's ok, the story fits in with your preconcieved hatred for the evil US government boogieman, so who cares how far fetched it is?

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Puster Bill

Being chased by a killer rabbit...

Sadly, there aren't many who get that Cold War reference anymore.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by Puster Bill

Being chased by a killer rabbit...

"We'd best not risk another frontal assault. That rabbit's dynamite!"

[Puster Bill]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

"We'd best not risk another frontal assault. That rabbit's dynamite!"

Actually, I was referring to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_C...abbit_incident

[elite_hunter_sh3]

When you add all these events with the docking of the Aegis ship San Jacinto at Haifa, you know something is up. Think about it, an Aegis ship, not excluding the fact that the San Jacinto is the #1 in her class, is by herself at the dock, it violates most procedures.

US Warship to Dock at Haifa

First, Aegis ships are on the outer ring of a carrier group. Their state of the art radar and sonar help protect the carrier(s). Where's the rest of the fleet?

Second, for her to be docked would indicate she is either damaged or carrying Israeli personnel, maybe even wounded. A mossad dive team that got messed up sabotaging the cables would explain it. They would be transferred to Israeli hospitals, not US hospital ships.

Third, an Aegis could provide a lot of useful signal intelligence to the Israelis while they were knocking out the cables. Naturally, the San Jacinto would have helped as much as it could while a running battle was going on beneath the surface between the USS Jimmy Carter with Russian and Iranian submarines. The SJ could also have been carrying survivors from the Carter.

The locations of the five breaks in the cables are so far apart that it would take a combined operation of several ships, submarines, and ROVs. Anyone surprised that the US would be involved?

:hmm:

[CCIP]

Actually, it would take a small trawler to cut those cables.

Isn't Israel an ally of the US? Why should anyone be surprised that a ship makes a visit to an allied port, then? Also, where's the evidence that there was any sort of struggle involved there?

Seriously, anything could've taken out those cables. Why it has to be the most advanced sub in the world is beyond me. It's stupid.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

Egypt said no ships were in the vicinity when the cables were cut.... nothing on radar or through their binoculars... :hmm:, official statement too.. that leaves only underwater vessel....

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

When you add all these events with the docking of the Aegis ship San Jacinto at Haifa, you know something is up. Think about it, an Aegis ship, not excluding the fact that the San Jacinto is the #1 in her class, is by herself at the dock, it violates most procedures.

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Third, an Aegis could provide a lot of useful signal intelligence to the Israelis while they were knocking out the cables. Naturally, the San Jacinto would have helped as much as it could while a running battle was going on beneath the surface between the USS Jimmy Carter with Russian and Iranian submarines. The SJ could also have been carrying survivors from the Carter.

:hmm:

Your supposed to grow up at 18 elite hunter ...

I appreciate a lot of your posts , but the part I bolded just plain sounds paranoid.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

so let me guess.. a bunch of trawlers who are invisible to radar and human eyes manage to cut cables that are buried 20-30 meters under the ocean floor, and magically very far away from each other, in a small time frame... you got any better ideas???

[CCIP]

Ok, one question - why?

It's a horrendously risky, expensive and stupid plan - all for what? See, this is why I don't believe in conspiracy theories. It's just too intricate, risky and value-less to actually happen.


In the worst case, one (or more) of the Israeli diesel subs could've done it - and why go that far, when the Israelis have plenty of commando-oriented sea vehicles to start with? They're more likely to take these sorts of moves in the region. But involving the most expensive and complex nuclear sub in the world and the whole American, Russian and Iranian navies - in running fights at that - in all of this is way far out.

[sonar732]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

so let me guess.. a bunch of trawlers who are invisible to radar and human eyes manage to cut cables that are buried 20-30 meters under the ocean floor, and magically very far away from each other, in a small time frame... you got any better ideas???

You can run with it all you'd like...that's what drives conspiracy nuts anyway...no matter what type of evidence is provided...it's not right.