Is the AI cheating?

[Captain Vlad]

That sounds odd, I usually don't have much trouble getting away from the escorts provided the water is deep.

Tried getting below the layer?

[donut]

Take-out those damn escorts Stop a couple of marus from range safe max first,to eat later.Hit the tankers in the engine room. Dip your scope,run silent,daylite come in range under thermal,nite decks awash in closer,Mk 14 for range,rudder 0 steady course before fireing,open outer doors,attack escorts at flank,manuver,use decoys. Oh,cuties for escorts when they cluster over you,fire at 95 Ft,short flank U-turn,another flank burst to draw cuties back to your area the escorts will be close,dive & wiggle,get back under thermal,run silent.Battle stations loads fish faster,come out of silent when at flank.

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

Tun off repair crew and reload torpedo buttons for extra silence. If you got depth go past Thermal Layer at slow speed.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Run silent, run deep


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[DavyJonesFootlocker]

I concur with the Completely Expired Bard above.

[SteamWake]

The AI can spot a scope as if it were a flare shot off. :hmm:

Limit your exposure keep a low profile (bow/stern) pointed at the escorts. Only raise the scope for quick peeks. If you intend to avoid the targets go deep as suggested.

Keep silent, turn on silent running, whatever you do dont ping.

Get yourself into a good position where you dont have to do more than a few knots to intercept.

[ruskoz]

I have tried all the above...one example i found a small convey far off, I could only see their faint smoke so igot in front of them and lost visual. I came to a full stop stayed submerged, rigged for silent running, was not loading torps or doing any repairs and scope down and stayed down the whole time. I then time compressed because i was so far ahead of the convey which only had one escort. I ran this same test 3 times, each time the escort makes a b-line to me...I have also noticed the thermal layer has never worked for me I have tried it many times but the escorts keep making passes and they are always deep charging in my direct area.

For some reason they are picking me up with passive detection and zeroing in on me with active pinging making it impossible to do anything but keep moveing at max speed.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by ruskoz

making it impossible to do anything but keep moveing at max speed.

Never ever go to flank when trying to evade with one exception. If a DD has you lined up and they start their attack run go to flank and turn hard port or starbord. After a few minutes reduce to 1/3 again and continue out.

When the DD's do their attack run they will go to flank rapidly and they are more or less 'blind' at that point. Idea is to keep them guessing.

If they are dropping DC's off the mark smile and creep your way out of their.

If they are picking you up at a distance when your submerged at all stop you must have done something to alert them to your presance wether it be your scope or some other 'noisy' behaviour.

[Mush Martin]

Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

Run silent, run deep


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Run Surfaced Run em down Run up our colours Run out the guns
Run Rampant Play Wagner and Kick A$$.


Schmuck

[ReallyDedPoet]

Originally Posted by Mush Martin

Run Surfaced Run em down Run up our colours Run out the guns
Run Rampant Play Wagner and Kick A$$.


Schmuck

Bah!!


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[howler93]

Howler, from past experience, I'll use up to about 32x time compression to evade once I'm beyond about 4-6k yards from the escorts if I'm submerged, which is also about the point where I get comfortable turning off Run Silent. Surfaced, I don't use it unless I am out of sight of them totally. Using TC closer than about 4k yards, or using higher TC anyplace within sonar range, is almost a guaranteed detection.

Quillan, thanks for the advice...I think your tip about having a book handy is good also!

Much oblidged,
Howler