More perverse PC getting away with it's idiocy

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by Konovalov

Steady on chaps. Someone having a stressful day perhaps?

Much to do about nothing in my view. Now, is there any real news about that we can get our knickers in a twist over? Oh the outrage. Yawn.

Ditto here.

[jumpy]

Nice puppies


Would the bus company also tell its patrons to fk off if they had mohawk hairstyles?

I don't see the problem myself. What were they doing that was so 'dangerous' to public safety?
Jobsworth busdriver imo. The number of nutjobs I've seen on busses who're behaving in a loud and violent manner and the bus driver doesn't batt an eyelid... but these two for being a bit 'different'?

It takes all sorts in this world, and based solely on appearence, mr jobsworth busdriver has no right to discriminate between who gets to travel on PUBLIC TRANSPORT.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by jumpy

Nice puppies


Would the bus company also tell its patrons to fk off if they had mohawk hairstyles?

I don't see the problem myself. What were they doing that was so 'dangerous' to public safety?

The company argues not with public safety, but safety for the freaks themselves. See, the bus slams the brakes, the line gets caught somewhere, the girl, sorry: the pet falls down, and there goes the neck into pieces.

Well, I am dreaming.

[jumpy]

The same could be said of non-freaks who have long dangly necklaces also, would it not? Yet you don't hear of 'little old lady with long necklace' being refused to get on the bus. What about people who wear scarves around their necks, or cravats for that matter?

This is all about these two standing out from the crowd, nothing more.
Were Arriva to be that safety concious then they ought to ban people with hand luggage from buses too; driver has to break hard, loose bags fly forwards and injure passengers...
It's laughable and the only reason bussie is being a jobsworth is probably because the staff got a lecture from the company H&S bod, telling them it would be 'more than their job's worth' if they did or did not do something that caused the company to be liable for costs or whatever.

Pure stupidity.

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by jumpy

The same could be said of non-freaks who have long dangly necklaces also, would it not? Yet you don't hear of 'little old lady with long necklace' being refused to get on the bus. What about people who wear scarves around their necks, or cravats for that matter?

This is all about these two standing out from the crowd, nothing more.
Were Arriva to be that safety concious then they ought to ban people with hand luggage from buses too; driver has to break hard, loose bags fly forwards and injure passengers...
It's laughable and the only reason bussie is being a jobsworth is probably because the staff got a lecture from the company H&S bod, telling them it would be 'more than their job's worth' if they did or did not do something that caused the company to be liable for costs or whatever.

Pure stupidity.

Agree totally. I myself have experienced Arriva stupidity first hand.

I once used an Arriva bus just outside London. It was raining heavily wen I was standing at the bus stop. I hailed the bus as is the procedure. He stopped. I got on and gave him a £5.00 note as I had zero change. For the record the fare was around £2.00. He grumbled and said that he doesn't have the change and that I would have to get off the bus. I replied, "Are you kidding me! It's a five pound note. It's not like I'm giving you a twenty or even worse fifty pound note." He said get off. I promptly refused by parking my bum down on a seat while saying, "Radio your depot because I am not getting off this bus." He cursed at me before finally closing the bus door and getting underway a couple of minutes later.

So you could say that I am not a big fan of some Arriva bus drivers.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by jumpy

The same could be said of non-freaks who have long dangly necklaces also, would it not?

If made of solid iron that would not break, yes. But you miss the point. Instead of making an apology on that basis (security concerns), they should not apologize at all, but invite them to come over for an additonal spanking - for disgusting behavior that is an offense to public standards. i also do not want little children to see this nonsens. Or walking naked in public. I also would complain about people putting their dirty shoes on the seats. Some years a I was aboard a train to Mannheim, when a young man entered our compartement, sprawled himself over the bank, put his feet and shoes on the armrest close to me - and wondered why I balked at him to stop that. He shook his head, and continued, closing his eyes as if sleeping. Next thing that happened was that I threw him out, which really made him awake again. Half an hour later - I assume he made more troubles somehwerre else - he was led out by the ticket collector and two policemen. Right so.

we are talking about minimal standards of behavior here - MINIMAL standards of behavior.

And this:

Mr Graves said: "She's very animal like, she's kind of like a pet, as well as a partner."
He said he "does everything" for his girlfriend, including laying out clothes for her, feeding her and cleaning their house. He said: "You wouldn't expect your cat or dog to do the washing up or cleaning round the house."

Sorry, that is sick, simply this, a clear index for deeply troubled minds and a pathologic neurosis on display.

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by Skybird

If made of solid iron that would not break, yes. But you miss the point.

Have you ever considered that it may be you missing the point. You're starting to sound like the thought police here on this one. I mean geez louise Sky. You talk as if they have committed an act of public indecency. Firstly they were adequately dressed (ie. not exposing themselves) and most importantly they broke no law of this country. I suppose hippies with long dreadlocks that stink of incense are bad too and don't meet your minimal standards.

Quite frankly I think that you are jumping up and down on your soap box over nothing. I'm more concerned with anti-social behaviour on our streets such as foul abusive language, teenagers carrying knives and firearms, and the like rather than a couple of Goths wearing black leathers and chains. Didn't you live through the punk scene in the 1980's?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Konovalov

Didn't you live through the punk scene in the 1980's?

Yes, and in Berlin. And guess what - I am not too tolerant to that, too. If they nevertheless behave, okay, let's see how it works. But leading people around like dogs - well, next is some rubber fetishists in half-naked outfit parading on the street. - Gee, I forgot, we already have that: Christopher Street Day.

And you know what? I am intolerant on that one, too.

One cannot criticise the fall of values and social behavior - and tolerate practicing of it nevertheless.

and most decisive for me personally is this, what I already said at the beginning: I would feel irritated, a bit helpless maybe, offended, and even attacked in my sense of shame, when needing to see such people like in that article and sit beside them in a bus. And that is what social standards, amongst others, are there for: to protect against the direct, confronting violation of taboos and sense of shame in public. at home, they even can eat dogfood if they want, i do not care. but if I am forced to witness them doing that, the fun comes to an end.

Boy oh boy, what is wriong these days, that every BS and every freak and every misbehavior must be tolerated and dealt with as if nothing is wrong, and all is okay, and if you are not willing to do that, you are accused to be an intolerant, reactionary burgeois.

In germany, three or four weeks ago an old man was almost killed by a Greek and a Turkish juvenile while teling them not to smoke in the subway. after he left the train, they jumped onto him, kicked woith full power in his neck and face, and he suffered multiple skull fractions and got almost killed. Nevertheless, an editor of a major newspaper here "Die Zeit", wrote an essay that such violance gets provoked by german "Spießbürgerlichkeit", and that a buregois like that that old man would maybe get away healthy if they would not be so tunnel-minded and accept that rules and laws get violated (smoking in trains is forbidden here). the editor caused an avaöanche of aggressive angry responses to his follies, even hateful post, but he even kicked a second time, saying that it is a sign of intolerance in Germany if the criminal statistic (saying that around one half of the crimes of juveniles are committed by juveniles from foreigner's families, and the other half by german offsprings) is being discussed as interpreted as that foreign juveniles commit significantly more crimes than German juveniles. That is Pc in action - if foreigners really would not commit more crimes than Germans, in crime statistiscs they should have a drastcially lower score. but if their score is as high as that of German, although there are mutliple times as many Germans living here than foreiogners, than this means that the crime rate is multiple times as high amongst foreigners, than it is amongst Germans. solution in order not to be burgois: ignore it, and remain silent about it as if nothing is happening.

Sorry guys, not with me. I am totally pissed with this kind of unreasonably tolerance, becasue I see how it is raping the culture I live in, and makes mockery of everything that our cultural developement over past centuries has brought to shine. That is true with regard to those wannabe-killers in the subway. That is true for almost naked men bragging with their sexual orientation on public parade, and that is true for a couple walking around and provoking their social environment without any consideration like the two in this article.