VIIB vs. VIIC

[Wulfmann]

Originally Posted by Deathfrombelow23

I'm thinking long-term and saving for the XXI.

You could just edit the cfg so the XXI was 1,000 or 5,000 or whatever. That was put in by UBI as a gaming number and has no basis for anything unless you want to think so.
I never changed it from 20K because if I get that far I have 20K anyway and I can't use the renown at Wal-Mart so can but a XXI!!:rotfl:

Wulfmann

[High Voltage]

Deeper....Deeper...

[Jimbuna]

U-flack...shoot down a few fly boys.....before you get killed

[Graf Paper]

So it certainly seems the opinion is that the VIIC is a worthwhile investment for its greater diving depth and more extensive upgrades, giving it the edge over the VIIB despite the VIIB being somewhat faster and having a greater submerged range ( 90nm vs. 80nm, thats 18.5km or 11.5 miles difference ).

Now, aside from some modeling work being done by Tomi_099 giving even more compelling reasons for having a VIIC, are the upgrades that really count for sinking enemy ships and evading detection also available for the VIIB? By this, I mean things such as radar, radar detection, anti-sonar coating, snorkel, etc.

The guns like quad-flak and 108mm deck are good to have if you need them but, like I've said before, I try to avoid needing them and rely mainly on stealth for defense.

I suppose I should mention that U-47, my VIIB boat, has the turbo-charged diesels and quick-charge batteries, giving her a top speed of 18kts surfaced and 8kts submerged.

It's currently early June 1940 in game and I'm sailing with the 1st Flotilla out of Kiel. Am I better off saving my points for a Type IX variant later when I get transferred with the flotilla to Brest?


I've always started my careers with 1st Flotilla in September 1939 but my long break from SH3 has left me clueless!

[BulSoldier]

Surcouf - thats what a true submarine is - twin 8inch guns not our funny 88mm ! :rotfl:

she also had aircaft and a boat onboard

http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/macslog/French...urcoufthe.html

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Graf Paper

So it certainly seems the opinion is that the VIIC is a worthwhile investment for its greater diving depth and more extensive upgrades, giving it the edge over the VIIB despite the VIIB being somewhat faster and having a greater submerged range ( 90nm vs. 80nm, thats 18.5km or 11.5 miles difference ).

Now, aside from some modeling work being done by Tomi_099 giving even more compelling reasons for having a VIIC, are the upgrades that really count for sinking enemy ships and evading detection also available for the VIIB? By this, I mean things such as radar, radar detection, anti-sonar coating, snorkel, etc.

The guns like quad-flak and 108mm deck are good to have if you need them but, like I've said before, I try to avoid needing them and rely mainly on stealth for defense.

I suppose I should mention that U-47, my VIIB boat, has the turbo-charged diesels and quick-charge batteries, giving her a top speed of 18kts surfaced and 8kts submerged.

It's currently early June 1940 in game and I'm sailing with the 1st Flotilla out of Kiel. Am I better off saving my points for a Type IX variant later when I get transferred with the flotilla to Brest?


I've always started my careers with 1st Flotilla in September 1939 but my long break from SH3 has left me clueless!

Try the 2nd Flotilla in Sept 39 (IXB)

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Hey,
I'm on my 2nd career(GWX2.0). My first career was with GWX1.03, but I didnt get to finish, because 2.0 came out. I made it to summer 1944 before I upgraded to 2.0.
On the first career, I waited until the VIIC-41 was available and by then I needed it. After I purchased it, I was offered Radar Absorbing Material and Sonar Absorbing material v.2, immediately. I think that the schnorkel was available to the VIIB. The main thing I needed bythen was the radar absorbing material. Escorts will detect you and chase you off all the time. Once I was without RAM and a DD detected me, but I didnt notice this and raised the TC only to be blasted out of the water.
It is possible to make it to the VIIC41 without purchasing the VIIC, but you have to be alot more careful.

[U49]

Submerged range is a critical factor for my tactics and thus I prefer VIIB until the year '42 comes....

Starting from here on the advatages of VIIC's equipment options and it's diving abilities come into play... regretable I think I loose about 10% underwater range....