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Old 01-11-08, 07:56 AM   #1
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How i see bush from down under - hes a modern day warrior who wasn't afraid to put his presidencey on the line by going to war.
But he wasn't willing to put his life on the line. This is a man that joined the US Air National Guard, opted not to serve overseas and then couldn't even be bothered to turn up half the time.

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The one i think is the biggest clown and would probably make americans cringe when he said on live TV.

'I, did not have sexual relations with that woman' :rotfl: He lied to his fellow americans:hmm: Who doesn't but he was as smooth as they come looking down the camera eye to eye contact with not a hint of guilt... He should of worked for the CIA:p
Anyways ignore my post this is coming from a kiwi, who only know about your presidents from what i read here or see on TV.
Bill Clinton's dishonesty over his relationship with Monica Lewinsky has to date cost zero lives and destroyed nothing, save some of Clinton's (though if IIRC he left office with a high approval rating) credability.

Bush and his governments lies and incompetance have, to date, cost thousands of lives.
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Old 01-11-08, 08:31 AM   #2
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But he wasn't willing to put his life on the line. This is a man that joined the US Air National Guard, opted not to serve overseas and then couldn't even be bothered to turn up half the time.

Some Warrior.
The man flew fighter jets. That, even in peace time is a very dangerous profession. Maybe not as dangerous as say, Infantryman, but certainly more hazardous than sitting in an airconditioned Saigon office pushing paperwork.
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But he wasn't willing to put his life on the line. This is a man that joined the US Air National Guard, opted not to serve overseas and then couldn't even be bothered to turn up half the time.

Some Warrior.
The man flew fighter jets. That, even in peace time is a very dangerous profession. Maybe not as dangerous as say, Infantryman, but certainly more hazardous than sitting in an airconditioned Saigon office pushing paperwork.
True. However, when you take into account what else was going at the time, ie the war, it is a relatively safe way to spend your time in the armed services.
Of course it's a lot safer not to show up.
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True. However, when you take into account what else was going at the time, ie the war, it is a relatively safe way to spend your time in the armed services.
But relative to what Tchock? "Recreation Center Specialist" handing out basketballs at an army resort in Austria? (an actual military job). Like I said, a Fighter Pilot, even just in Texas, was far more dangerous occupation than Saigon pencil pusher.

Of course there was always the Bill Clinton route; avoid military service altogether. Apparently even that backround allows a President to send our young men into harms way.
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True. However, when you take into account what else was going at the time, ie the war, it is a relatively safe way to spend your time in the armed services.
But relative to what Tchock? "Recreation Center Specialist" handing out basketballs at an army resort in Austria? (an actual military job) Like I said, a Fighter Pilot, even just in Texas, was far more dangerous occupation than Saigon pencil pusher.
That statement implies that all the US soldiers in Vietnam drove desks. Very misleading, that.
I mean relative to a pilot in theatre. Bush's unit contained quite a few privileged Texans. Coincidence or not, I don't know for sure but it smells damn funny. Especially when he didn't bother showing up and nobody seemed to mind. Even when his flight status was suspended nobody cared. A dangerous, yet seemingly inconsequential job.
Speaking of jobs, any vacancies for the basketballs? Sounds like one of those low-paying fun jobs with lots of free time
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Of course there was always the Bill Clinton route; avoid military service altogether. Apparently even that backround allows a President to send our young men into harms way.
Bill-O's no saint either. One could argue that he was a little more honest than W :p
I wouldn't, but someone on DU might.
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That statement implies that all the US soldiers in Vietnam drove desks. Very misleading, that.
That certainly wasn't my intention, but you do realize that the ratio of support to combat troops in any war zone is about 10 or 15 to 1.

Re: Rec. Ctr Specialist.

I met one of those guys while i was stationed in Germany. Arguably the best job in the Army.
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President Bush is not the first president that has had popularity problems, even President Truman had problems and he won WWII by dropping the A bomb.

I think President Bush will someday be considered one of our better Presidents.

History will prove that other countries are scarred to death to have the terroist that attacked America on 9/11 be in charge of their internal affairs.

President Bush's speeches were an encourgement to me and many others during the dark months after 9/11.

The fact that Iraq is showing improvement with it's troop surge tactic, plus 3,000 more US Marines are being sent to Afghanistan ...
proves America is doing something about terroism besides waiting for the next attack.

President Bush is my Commander in Chief and I am proud of it, except for the national debt that he has caused that is.
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