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Old 01-10-08, 08:18 PM   #1
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Default I hate Bush-but I don't know why

Let me say it first, I do not hate or love Bush.

But however I have met people how hate Bush and som of them just don't know why.

let me give you some exampels

A work colleague said once to me

-LOL and he(Bush) got a veto
I asked him for what
I don't no, he replied
(Either do I) I know that Bush gets a veto almost everyday

And another one
There's aint and have never been chemical weapon in Iraq.
It's all a Goebbel like production from Bush

Then there are those who love Bush

I have found out that those who hate him or love him are scanning the internet to find just the things that can helped them in their debat or strenghten their believes

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Old 01-10-08, 08:28 PM   #2
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How i see bush from down under - hes a modern day warrior who wasn't afraid to put his presidencey on the line by going to war. The one i think is the biggest clown and would probably make americans cringe when he said on live TV.

'I, did not have sexual relations with that woman' :rotfl: He lied to his fellow americans:hmm: Who doesn't but he was as smooth as they come looking down the camera eye to eye contact with not a hint of guilt... He should of worked for the CIA:p



Anyways ignore my post this is coming from a kiwi, who only know about your presidents from what i read here or see on TV.
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Old 01-10-08, 08:40 PM   #3
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He should of worked for the CIA
maybe he did! :p
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Old 01-10-08, 08:48 PM   #4
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My thread are to show, that many people can't think for them self they are to say it in plain english playing "follow John"

Hope you understand what I mean

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Old 01-10-08, 09:04 PM   #5
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I cant say im a fan of Bush, and i know why.

A few reasons why, that do not relate to Iraq:

- Gross, frequent, and blatant abuse of signing statements. Hes been tap dancing around and circumventing our nations laws, and otherwise using it as a line item veto, and has made more signing statements then any president in US history.

- Sneaky Back door appointments.

- Sneaky back door, passing of bills, such as recent one which would have allowed mexican truck drives the full run of the US. This would have put MANY americans out of work, and could conviebly cause all shipping, and shipping ports to move to mexico. More US jobs outsourced.

- Speaking of outsourcing.. the presidental debates on his second election, his stance on outsourcing is wholly unsatisfactory, and only caters to corporate or speical interests, and NOT the average American. This was my breaking point with Bush. The American people should always come first, MR president.

Anyway, im sure i could make this list alot longer if i thought about it long enough. Ats all i have to say about this.
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Old 01-10-08, 09:29 PM   #6
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Bad:
- rigged the 2004 elections in florida...
- went to war in iraq over oil , elite israeli lobbyists who want him to fight the wars for their own interests..
- allowed millions of ILLEGAL immigrants to flood and invade the southern United states, bringing crime and disease....
- illegal immigrants now a huge drain on welfare and social security system..
- created a deficit (this picture updates.. the deficit every 30 min or so)
-debt increases by $1.48 billion per day
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now wants to go to Iran because Israeli lobbyists are telling him to...
- outsourced US economy and jobs to communist China...
-allowed 9/11 to happen...

good:
- dont think there is anything good about this fool



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Old 01-11-08, 07:56 AM   #7
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How i see bush from down under - hes a modern day warrior who wasn't afraid to put his presidencey on the line by going to war.
But he wasn't willing to put his life on the line. This is a man that joined the US Air National Guard, opted not to serve overseas and then couldn't even be bothered to turn up half the time.

Some Warrior.

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The one i think is the biggest clown and would probably make americans cringe when he said on live TV.

'I, did not have sexual relations with that woman' :rotfl: He lied to his fellow americans:hmm: Who doesn't but he was as smooth as they come looking down the camera eye to eye contact with not a hint of guilt... He should of worked for the CIA:p
Anyways ignore my post this is coming from a kiwi, who only know about your presidents from what i read here or see on TV.
Bill Clinton's dishonesty over his relationship with Monica Lewinsky has to date cost zero lives and destroyed nothing, save some of Clinton's (though if IIRC he left office with a high approval rating) credability.

Bush and his governments lies and incompetance have, to date, cost thousands of lives.
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Old 01-11-08, 08:31 AM   #8
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But he wasn't willing to put his life on the line. This is a man that joined the US Air National Guard, opted not to serve overseas and then couldn't even be bothered to turn up half the time.

Some Warrior.
The man flew fighter jets. That, even in peace time is a very dangerous profession. Maybe not as dangerous as say, Infantryman, but certainly more hazardous than sitting in an airconditioned Saigon office pushing paperwork.
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Old 01-11-08, 08:34 AM   #9
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But he wasn't willing to put his life on the line. This is a man that joined the US Air National Guard, opted not to serve overseas and then couldn't even be bothered to turn up half the time.

Some Warrior.
The man flew fighter jets. That, even in peace time is a very dangerous profession. Maybe not as dangerous as say, Infantryman, but certainly more hazardous than sitting in an airconditioned Saigon office pushing paperwork.
True. However, when you take into account what else was going at the time, ie the war, it is a relatively safe way to spend your time in the armed services.
Of course it's a lot safer not to show up.
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True. However, when you take into account what else was going at the time, ie the war, it is a relatively safe way to spend your time in the armed services.
But relative to what Tchock? "Recreation Center Specialist" handing out basketballs at an army resort in Austria? (an actual military job). Like I said, a Fighter Pilot, even just in Texas, was far more dangerous occupation than Saigon pencil pusher.

Of course there was always the Bill Clinton route; avoid military service altogether. Apparently even that backround allows a President to send our young men into harms way.
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Old 01-11-08, 01:01 AM   #11
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I don't like Bush because he is simply a fool who shouldn't and wouldn't have become president if it wasn't for daddy.



Democrat/Republican your all Americans to me! :p
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Old 01-11-08, 05:42 AM   #13
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Why to dislike Bush...???

There is no word in English that translates it adequately, sorry, he is a hipocryte "Moralapostel" who has caused a lot of suffering in the name of his queer morals. He is incomptent, uneducated, and intellectually dumb. He is highly polarizing. He betrayed his own people, and intentionally gave them wrong impressions. He did massive damage to certain basic rights and fundemantal laws. He selfishly abused laws for his purposes, and manipulated law making processes in favour of his agenda. He does not know what the world "international" means, and knows nothing about the world, and other countries. He is an alcoholic. He is a puppet of lobbies. And he thinks he has a special commline to "God" and he boasts in public with what he considers to be his religion, which ultimately fails his case for me. Two controversial elections (I spare us to put together all the implicated details of both events). He actively interferes with indepedenant sciences, and tries to hide unwelcomed truths from his own people, and manipulates what data gets publicated, and what not. He openely supported creationism at public schools. He caused a hilarious deficits, with no sign that he ever considers it to be necessary to pay American debts back. He sent thousands of his countrymen into death and tens of thousands of families into suffering, over an unneeded but politically wanted war. He needed a 9/11 in order to boost support for himself on an emotional only level - before that, the majority laughed about him, and on his way into the White House, if you remember, his limousine for minutes stood still in the rain with no shiny support by huge crowds, but many protesters standing at the line of the road. His family has close financial relations to the Saudis, the masters of treachery and double-play. He wastes money in supporting Pakistan - at the cost of American soldier's lifes, and european ones.

and generally, he has massively hurt his country. He did not raise sympathy for america, but antipathy to it. He casued mistrust to it, no trust in it. He turned away old friends. He created deficits, not profits. He weakened the strategic position of America in the world. He made more enemies, not less. He decreased the number of american options. He massievly decreased global security and stability. He damaged plenty of important international relations. He wasted a stellar ammount of money on a stupidly motivated and incompetently handled war. He acts irresponsibly as if climate challenges do not exist.

All in all, his major error was: he allowed imself into office. The most stupid and uneducated president in the history of American presidents, I'm sure. Call a garbage truck to get him out of office. His god obviously played a very divine joke on this figure of fun. He should leave the White House through the backdoor at night, with a lowered head and a red face, all in a hurry, and never show up again anywhere.
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Old 01-11-08, 07:21 AM   #14
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George Bush went down hill fast after 9/11 on those dreadful decisions he made, US troops and Allied troops are paying the cost of revenge. Don't get me wrong, what was done on that fateful day sicken me to my stomach what those bastard terrorist did, but I feel G.B. should had taken a step back and seriously looked into the consequences of the invasion of Iraq before kicking down the door.

Granted as a non citizen of America I can not really comment what G.B. is like in taking and making decisions at home.
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