Scientific paradigm shift towards Nazism?

[mrbeast]

[quote=heartc]

Originally Posted by Wave Skipper

Right. They're just commies.

The BBC is Communist?

[heartc]

This might come as a surprise for you, but it's not just the evil "Fox News" which has a political slant to it, you know. Only difference is they (FN) are not trying to hide it, and they are in the minority in the media landscape.

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by heartc

This might come as a surprise for you, but it's not just the evil "Fox News" which has a political slant to it, you know. Only difference is they (FN) are not trying to hide it, and they are in the minority in the media landscape.

You obviously know very little about the BBC. To begin with the BBC is prohibited by strict guidelines from politically biased broadcasting as are all other UK TV channels. If Fox News was a UK news channel it would probably be off the air now. The BBC has no political agenda and is required to give a balanced view, if one political party is allowed whats known in the UK as a 'party political broadcast' then they all are to maintain balance. The BBC is respected all over the world as a reliable and impartial news broadcaster. Finally as someone who watches the BBC every day I can assure it isn't communist, its pretty establishment actually.

I can't really coment on Scientific American but from what I've seen I wouldn't call it communist either.

To say that Fox News has 'a political slant' is a bit of an understatment.

and Blacklight as you might note this thread had spun off on my other one: others who wear tinfoil hats

I too hated it when Star Ship Troopers rewrote the book. On another note I also hate other sci-fi movies that imply that aliens would use WWI air combat tactics to take over earth. Independance Day was basically a show about slow moving giant zepplins with force fields guarded by swarms of Fokkers with increased speeds and weaponary.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

You obviously know very little about the BBC. To begin with the BBC is prohibited by strict guidelines from politically biased broadcasting as are all other UK TV channels. If Fox News was a UK news channel it would probably be off the air now. The BBC has no political agenda and is required to give a balanced view, if one political party is allowed whats known in the UK as a 'party political broadcast' then they all are to maintain balance. The BBC is respected all over the world as a reliable and impartial news broadcaster. Finally as someone who watches the BBC every day I can assure it isn't communist, its pretty establishment actually.

I can't really coment on Scientific American but from what I've seen I wouldn't call it communist either.

To say that Fox News has 'a political slant' is a bit of an understatment.

I see the UK media has as firmly a grip on the people as their German counterpart does. The EUSSR is coming along nicely, and faster than I would have thought, indeed.

"To begin with the BBC is prohibited by strict guidelines from politically biased broadcasting as are all other UK TV channels."
"The BBC has no political agenda"

Thanks for the laugh. Do you really believe what you write?

"If Fox News was a UK news channel it would probably be off the air now."

Yes, no doubt about it. Diversity, checks and balance is always an uncomfortable thing to deal with, ain't it. BTW, have you ever watched FN or just...err...read about it in...err...your media? Just asking, because all the Fox News experts in Germany that I know have never ever seen the channel.

"Finally as someone who watches the BBC every day I can assure it isn't communist, its pretty establishment actually."

Oh, it's "establishment"? I see any further word would be pointless, but thanks for making my point.

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by heartc

I see the UK media has as firmly a grip on the people as their German counterpart does. The EUSSR is coming along nicely, and faster than I would have thought, indeed.

"To begin with the BBC is prohibited by strict guidelines from politically biased broadcasting as are all other UK TV channels."
"The BBC has no political agenda"

Thanks for the laugh. Do you really believe what you write?

"If Fox News was a UK news channel it would probably be off the air now."

Yes, no doubt about it. Diversity, checks and balance is always an uncomfortable thing to deal with, ain't it. BTW, have you ever watched FN or just...err...read about it in...err...your media? Just asking, because all the Fox News experts in Germany that I know have never ever seen the channel.

"Finally as someone who watches the BBC every day I can assure it isn't communist, its pretty establishment actually."

Oh, it's "establishment"? I see any further word would be pointless, but thanks for making my point.

You know I don't know where to start, you're either joking or paranoid I don't know which.:hmm:

Whats that line again?......'...pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.'

Think that makes my point perfectly

[DeepIron]

Acute Schizophrenia Paranoia Blues

I’m too terrified to walk out of my own front door,
They’re demonstrating outside I think they’re gonna start the third world war,
I’ve been to my local head shrinker,
To help classify my disease,
He said it’s one of the cases of acute schizophrenia he sees.

Well the milkman’s a spy, and the grocer keeps on following me,
And the woman next door’s an undercover for the k.g.b.,
And the man from the social security
Keeps on invading my privacy,
Oh there ain’t no cure for acute schizophrenia disease.

I’ve got acute schizophrenia paranoia too,
Schizophrenia, schizophrenia,
I’ve got it, you’ve got it, we can’t lose,
Acute schizophrenia blues.

I’m lost on the river, the river of no return,
I can’t make decisions, I don’t know which way I’m gonna turn,
Even my old dad, lost some of the best friends he ever had,
Apparently, his was a case of acute schizophrenia too.

I got acute schizophrenia paranoia too,
Schizophrenia, schizophrenia,
I’ve got it, you’ve got it, we can’t lose,
Acute schizophrenia blues,

They’re watching my house and they’re tapping my telephone,
I can’t trust nobody, but I’m much too scared to be on my own
And the income tax collector’s got his beady eye on me,
Oh there ain’t no cure for acute schizophrenia disease.

No there ain’t no cure for
Schizophrenia disease.

[August]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

You know I don't know where to start, you're either joking or paranoid I don't know which.:hmm:

Whats that line again?......'...pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.'

Think that makes my point perfectly

I notice that you didn't say anything to contradict his post...

[mrbeast]

I just thought it would be futile heartc has already made up his mind that the UK, BBC, well the whole of europe is in the grip of communism. Anyone who talks about the 'EUSSR' doesn't seem open to suggestions.

But just for the record.....its all about checks and balances, Fox News would be in trouble if it was a UK TV channel preciesly because it lacks them and advocates an obvious political bias. UK TV is not allowed to have this.

I'd be interested just how familiar heartc is with the British media? Or did he just hear about it on Fox News?

BTW the establishment in the UK is deciedly conservative with a small 'c'.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by August

I notice that you didn't say anything to contradict his post...

He didn't have anything in his post, actually. It's full of "oh don't make me laugh, you don't believe that do you?", and the usual inflationary rubbish.

My favourite bit - "I see any further word would be pointless"

Originally Posted by heartc

You don't get it. *Every* media outlet in itself *lacks* them, for it is a human-run hierarchical system, and humans are biased. If you say that is not so, then you are either intellectually dishonest, or naive and living in denial.
The only way checks and balances can get into the media landscape is by having DIFFERENT and DIVERSE media outlets. The very fact that there is some commitie making guidelines that would take a station off the air because it might broadcast what they would decide to be biased should have you
worried.

So humans aren't perfect, that's not exactly new. It's rather easy to spot when an outlet is being misleading, employing leading questions or overly favouring certain agendas. Freeing them up from from guidelines wouldn't get rid of this. As we can see in today's media market, people will select outlets that conform to their viewpoints, I can see this increasing immeasurably should outlets no longer be held accountable. News would be totally replaced by focus-group propaganda.