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Old 01-05-08, 01:05 PM   #1
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Looks like your gonna have to imagine the ships are in tip top condition and have dry bilges
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Old 01-05-08, 09:50 PM   #2
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Looks like your gonna have to imagine the ships are in tip top condition and have dry bilges
Why would you have to imagine that?

Cool idea if it can be done and suspect it can. This is added. in form anyway. to SH4. Water runs out from under the submarine superstructure. Some textures changes and flow direction. I bet it would be a nice addition to have this happening with vessels in the harbor.
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Old 01-05-08, 10:36 PM   #3
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Where does this water come from BTW? Is it ballast? Condensation?

Anyway, for this new program I wonder if it will be possible to add entirely new nodes onto the ship automatically, so that it will be easier to add new equipment.
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Old 01-05-08, 10:52 PM   #4
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"Water exhaust"!

That's a bilge outlet. "Bilge" is waste water that collects in a special compartment low down in the ship and is pumped out. Anything bigger than a punt has one. Bilgewater is really nasty stuff. My old boy has some interesting stories about bilge-cleaning and valve changing from when he was a deck officer cadet in the Merchant Navy.
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Old 01-06-08, 12:32 AM   #5
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That's how I felt about SH4 water sprays from the ballast water intake ports. I know water should move freely from those ports, especially when surfacing - can see it on US subs and U-boats in old films. But the deal is - in those films it never looks like the white sprays that shoot out from the subs in SH4. Not only that but in the real films such water rarely pours out of all the ballast holes at the same time and with the same volume. SO the SH4 routine ends up looking fakey. If it can't be done well - then its best not done.
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"Water exhaust"!

That's a bilge outlet. "Bilge" is waste water that collects in a special compartment low down in the ship and is pumped out. Anything bigger than a punt has one. Bilgewater is really nasty stuff. My old boy has some interesting stories about bilge-cleaning and valve changing from when he was a deck officer cadet in the Merchant Navy.
Too right there....when a vessel came into a shipyard for repairs, one of the worst jobs (usually reserved for apprentices) was to get into what was termed the 'double bottoms' below the floor plates and into the bilges to get at the sea valves.
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The big ones were the generator cooling water outlets, I seem to remember. There were also the loo outlets (pain in the neck if you got under one of those !), and in the really by-gone days (one hopes) there were tank cleanings from tankers being pumped straight into the sea .

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"Water exhaust"!

That's a bilge outlet. "Bilge" is waste water that collects in a special compartment low down in the ship and is pumped out. Anything bigger than a punt has one. Bilgewater is really nasty stuff. My old boy has some interesting stories about bilge-cleaning and valve changing from when he was a deck officer cadet in the Merchant Navy.
Too right there....when a vessel came into a shipyard for repairs, one of the worst jobs (usually reserved for apprentices) was to get into what was termed the 'double bottoms' below the floor plates and into the bilges to get at the sea valves.
That's why the term "bilge rat" is used, I pressume...
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Where does this water come from BTW? Is it ballast? Condensation?

Anyway, for this new program I wonder if it will be possible to add entirely new nodes onto the ship automatically, so that it will be easier to add new equipment.
I think that tis exaust comes from the engine's refrigerating system.
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The water comes from inside the ship's bilges. Some of it is waste-water from the accommodation and engine spaces, some is sea-water and rain-water which finds its way inside the ship. No vessel is totally waterproof, especially above the waterline. Water will continually find its way inside, so ship designers build in spaces to which it is channelled called bilges. To prevent the bilges from filling up and overflowing, they are regularly, sometimes continuously, pumped out overboard. That's what this "exhaust" water is - bilge-water from the bilge-pumps


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The water comes from inside the ship's bilges. Some of it is waste-water from the accommodation and engine spaces, some is sea-water and rain-water which finds its way inside the ship. No vessel is totally waterproof, especially above the waterline. Water will continually find its way inside, so ship designers build in spaces to which it is channelled called bilges. To prevent the bilges from filling up and overflowing, they are regularly, sometimes continuously, pumped out overboard. That's what this "exhaust" water is - bilge-water from the bilge-pumps


Sorry just noticed the cross-post with Cohaagen.
Yeah, in Italian naval language this space is called "sentina"....But, the photos posted by Tonschk shows ships in very calm weather, and if these ships really taken in water in that quantity I would have jailed the designers!
These ships seems motorships, so probably, part of that water comes from the refrigeration plant
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