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Old 12-17-07, 08:38 PM   #1
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Probably the most pathetic statment I have read yet from Skybird. All i see is atheist demanding that Christmas be canceled. Yet, one Atheist pretends this is not happening.

Skybirds fantasy land continues.

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Old 12-17-07, 08:40 PM   #2
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Ay carumba. I'm enjoying this Skybird thread more than I could be. Sometimes I'm sad people don't really read Skybird's posts, but I'm often even more sad reading them myself.

Seriously, first the Russians, now Atheists. Someone LOVES dreaming up enemies, cause for some reason you just need to have them all around. :hmm:
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Old 12-17-07, 08:52 PM   #3
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Ay carumba. I'm enjoying this Skybird thread more than I could be. Sometimes I'm sad people don't really read Skybird's posts, but I'm often even more sad reading them myself.

Seriously, first the Russians, now Atheists. Someone LOVES dreaming up enemies, cause for some reason you just need to have them all around. :hmm:
Hmm, I wish I made this stuff up, but Google is your friend. See how many attacks there are on Christmas.

While you're at it, want not search on bomber flights from Russia to US territory.

Better yet, quit burying your head in the sand.

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Old 12-17-07, 09:02 PM   #4
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So where are we up to now? the US is preventing the Russians from overflying the little match girl because they think she might steal a coat because of her war on Cold, and they've picked up some angels on radar, no wait a minute, erm no that's not right..

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Old 12-17-07, 09:01 PM   #5
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Ay carumba. I'm enjoying this Skybird thread more than I could be. Sometimes I'm sad people don't really read Skybird's posts, but I'm often even more sad reading them myself.

Seriously, first the Russians, now Atheists. Someone LOVES dreaming up enemies, cause for some reason you just need to have them all around. :hmm:
It's because being confused of one's own identity. If you do not know who you are, you must define yourself by defining whom you not are. This then works as a negative that provides you with a positive of what you think you are. And this then coagulates into a dogma of your identity that lets you be without understandinf or the other, and lets's you fight against him most determined - but still not knowing whom you really are. where you feel the vaccum inside of you, you fill and cover it up with fantasies that turn into dogmas. the more dogmatic you are, the more virtuous you are. the more more virtuous you are, the more just you are.

The less you know about yourself - the more virtuous you are...? :hmm: Justice - without knowing man - neither the other, nor yourself...?:hmm:
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Probably the most pathetic statment I have read yet from Skybird. All i see is atheist demanding that Christmas be canceled. Yet, one Atheist pretends this is not happening.
That is because you think you can see in all directions simultaneoulsy with your million-lensed facette eyes - but only one lens operating. Careful - wall ahead!
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Old 12-17-07, 09:02 PM   #7
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Probably the most pathetic statment I have read yet from Skybird. All i see is atheist demanding that Christmas be canceled. Yet, one Atheist pretends this is not happening.

Skybirds fantasy land continues.

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There's more than one statement in his post, that should be rather obvious.
There's only one in yours, though.

Regardless of subject matter or personal opinions, shouting down well-considered and thoughtful posts with "pathetic...fantasy land" isn't very constructive.
Neither is Avon's tactic of crying that someone has their head in the sand.
I quite regret my first post now.
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Old 12-17-07, 09:20 PM   #8
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Uhmm excuse me? Show me proof otherise? It is easy to find the opposite, but hard to say it is not happening.

And trust me Skybird, I have an identity, and I know Who I am. Unlike you, that flip flop on issues to push some agenda through. You must look in the mirror my friend.

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Old 12-18-07, 07:53 AM   #9
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Probably the most pathetic statment I have read yet from Skybird. All i see is atheist demanding that Christmas be canceled. Yet, one Atheist pretends this is not happening.

Skybirds fantasy land continues.

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Its funny SUBMAN, but I have never seen any serious attempt, by this mysterious atheist axis that you keep mentioning, to ban Christmas. All I can see is your reactionalry responses to anything that doesn't fit with your narrow world view.

Also suggesting that freezing vagrants be gunned down for trying to keep warm is not what I would call a very Christian attitude.
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I think it's outrageous that anyone would suggest shooting someone for taking a coat from a nativity display to keep warm. Everyone knows it would be far more cost effective to simply place land mines around it.

That one was for the benefit of those who see a star rising in the East and automatically assume it's a Tu-95 coming over the horizon:rotfl:

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the meditation groups I ran for several years, all in all around 300 people, plus/minus 50, I assume. The one thing I really demanded was a certain kind of dicispline
I can just see that: 'On the command three, you WILL relax! One, two... wait for it... wait for it! I DEMAND DISCIPLINE! THREEEEEEE!':rotfl:



Sorry Skybird, I'm only joking, it just put that picture in my head the way you phrased it.

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the meditation groups I ran for several years, all in all around 300 people, plus/minus 50, I assume. The one thing I really demanded was a certain kind of dicispline
I can just see that: 'On the command three, you WILL relax! One, two... wait for it... wait for it! I DEMAND DISCIPLINE! THREEEEEEE!':rotfl:



Sorry Skybird, I'm only joking, it just put that picture in my head the way you phrased it.

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sure, I already figured that out. Maybe "dedicated attitude" to do the things with regularity would be a better description. but you probably got the idea anyway. Nothing is to be gained, but all is to be found. that cannot be actively acchieved, but only passively received. It's not so much about doing the right things, but giving up doing the wrong things. So, pressure and "disciplined working" is very much useless from the very beginning. You only can help to improve the circumstances, that way making it more likely, maybe, to let go your conditioned habits, and by that giving room to let "enlightenment" happen all by itself, which again is not acchieving something new and different, but only realising what always has been there already, never being different. But that already is a misleading, dualistic conception again, so you better do not wish for "enlightenment" at all. Language, thinking - always a trap. I should bite a piece of soap, probably.
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Probably the most pathetic statment I have read yet from Skybird. All i see is atheist demanding that Christmas be canceled. Yet, one Atheist pretends this is not happening.

Skybirds fantasy land continues.

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Me and my family, 10 atheists, like christmas, no problem. Time to get together.
We have Sint Nicolaas here too, 5 december. Al atheist (61 % in the Netherlands) have a great time then, giving presents.
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