Middle Class England

[micky1up]

the truely rich are ok they are nice people the middle classs who social climb now they are tossers stamping on any one to get what they want ,me i from working classs origins realistic and fair to others the middle classs can drink themselves to death for all i care

[jumpy]

I always looked at the class system in this country as a product of economics, and not birth or family origins.
Anecdotally the 'middle classes' are never quite on an even keel - they earn too much to get any help from the government (unlike the working class), yet they earn too little to not worry about where the next bill is coming from, unlike the upper class.
The truly poor get all the state help available, whilst the truly rich enjoy a life free from the burdens of financial frugality. Those who lie somewhere in-between get shafted by the government in taxes and lack of assistance. Is it any surprise that today's take on the class system is as it is? If you're 'middle class' you have to work like a dog to get anywhere secure and break even.

Seems about right to me. I don't consider myself to be any particular class (though I have been described as having a 'posh accent' - no, I just don't have a regional twang to the way I speak), however I fit nicely into the financial bracket of earning too little to be truly comfortable and too much to get a break from the government or local council. I get taxed the most 'because I can afford it', but only just.

[Jimbuna]

England is a classless society.....just so long as you have enough money

[bradclark1]

Today class is based on income. I'm low class. I'm sure some here would agree.

[Jimbuna]

Agreed....but what I really object to is the massive differential between the working classes and the affluent classes.....faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too much difference....how much money can somebody want before they're satisfied they have enough
Heck!!....the more money you have the better the accountant or financial team your able to afford and usually, the less tax you end up paying

[Prof]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Agreed....but what I really object to is the massive differential between the working classes and the affluent classes.....faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too much difference....how much money can somebody want before they're satisfied they have enough
Heck!!....the more money you have the better the accountant or financial team your able to afford and usually, the less tax you end up paying

Surely what's important is that the working classes have enough, not that they're only X% behind the more affluent classes?

I'm probably about as 'middle class' as they come...except I don't pretend to be upper class...which, when you think about it, means I can't be 'middle class' after all :p
Anyway, the point is that as long as I have enough money to live, I couldn't care less whether the next social stratum above me is earning 2, 10 or 100 times what I'm earning.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Prof

Surely what's important is that the working classes have enough, not that they're only X% behind the more affluent classes?

I'm probably about as 'middle class' as they come...except I don't pretend to be upper class...which, when you think about it, means I can't be 'middle class' after all :p
Anyway, the point is that as long as I have enough money to live, I couldn't care less whether the next social stratum above me is earning 2, 10 or 100 times what I'm earning.

I'd like to be whatever this upper class thing is just for a day....then I'll happily drop back to my subterranean level.....armed with the bank account number for future reference of course