new pc built, wont power up

SUBMAN1 · 10-10-07, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I didn't notice anyone else ask.

But, have you been wearing a ground strap or a least been grounded to case during the assembly ?

God I hope so.

I can happily report that I tried one back in 1993 as a fasion statement (actually, was helping out a PC builder at the time for the day) - for about 2 minutes, before I ripped it off! Before and since then, I have never owned a ground strap and have yet to fry a PC component - in all the 10's of thousands of components I have touched (used to be in the PC biz for a while way back when), nor any of the 20+ PC's I have owned over the years.

Don't get me wrong, its good prevention against not thinking about grounding yourself out before touching things (simply touch the case of the PC you are working on, or if it is external components, work on top of an anti-static bag), but not neccesary after it becomes common practice to automatically grounding yourself prior to working.

Though possible, I think it would actually be hard to really fry a component with static electricity.

-S

geetrue · 10-10-07, 11:33 AM

I hope you get it fixed when you get home ... sounds like no power to the MB to me. Like the others said a loose plug can be the problem especially on the back of the power supply itself.

Here's a problem I had one time, hope it saves you or someone a trip to the computer store ... the sata plug on the MB to the hard drive should never be messed with while the power supply is plugged in.

Blew my power supply just trying to see if the sata was plugged in properly ...

I know, I know never put your hands inside a computer when it's plugged in, but I did ... I thought it was safe due to the whole unit was turned off. Power is still flowing through the MB to all of it's little plug in's.

Good luck mate

FIREWALL · 10-10-07, 11:43 AM

Hi SUBMAN1

I don't use a strap either but I also have experience.

But I think your last statement was very dangerous.

To the inexperienced that could very costly.

Static damage is the most common cause of computer hardware failure
and not covered under warrenty and is easy to tell.

Our friend doesn't seemed to be all that experienced pointing out no thermal paste and doesn't know what a multimeter is or how to use it.

It's one thing if your talking to a peer and quite another to someone with
less experience who might be trying to wing it on their own.

Anywho it is probably a moot point. We'll never know if he fryed something.

I hope him the best of luck as I'm sure you all do.

SUBMAN1 · 10-10-07, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Hi SUBMAN1

I don't use a strap either but I also have experience.

But I think your last statement was very dangerous.

To the inexperienced that could very costly.

Static damage is the most common cause of computer hardware failure
and not covered under warrenty and is easy to tell.

Our friend doesn't seemed to be all that experienced pointing out no thermal paste and doesn't know what a multimeter is or how to use it.

It's one thing if your talking to a peer and quite another to someone with
less experience who might be trying to wing it on their own.

Anywho it is probably a moot point. We'll never know if he fryed something.

I hope him the best of luck as I'm sure you all do.

That is why I emphasized that it is good prevention. Or maybe did I not emphasize that enough?

By the way, it is easy to return static killed parts. It is hard for them to tell too. They just think a transistor failed in the silicon. Replaced under warranty.

-S

3Jane · 10-10-07, 01:02 PM

Just thought of something else. Make absolutely sure that the MB and CPU power connectors are firmly placed in their sockets. If they are even slightly misaligned the connection won't be complete.

bradclark1 · 10-10-07, 02:00 PM

Take it to a computer repair place and have them look at it. It's better to pay a diagnostic price than have to rebuy expensive hardware because you burned it.

SUBMAN1 · 10-10-07, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

Take it to a computer repair place and have them look at it. It's better to pay a diagnostic price than have to rebuy expensive hardware because you burned it.

Well, I don't agree with this idea at least. This is no way to learn.

-S

bradclark1 · 10-10-07, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradclark1

Take it to a computer repair place and have them look at it. It's better to pay a diagnostic price than have to rebuy expensive hardware because you burned it.

Well, I don't agree with this idea at least. This is no way to learn.

-S

Expensive mistakes suck unless you can afford it.

SUBMAN1 · 10-10-07, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

Expensive mistakes suck unless you can afford it.

They still suck just as bad even when you can afford it. I don't care if I rack in 10 digits a year, I will still get ticked at $100 mistake.

Anyway, to learn is actually more important that that $100. Eventually, you become an expert, and it can't make you many many times over that amount for your learned services. Look at the problem as an asset, instead of a liability is all I am saying since I don't think he will screw his system up, but he will definitely learn from the ordeal.

-S

10-10-07, 11:33 AM	#2
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I hope you get it fixed when you get home ... sounds like no power to the MB to me. Like the others said a loose plug can be the problem especially on the back of the power supply itself. Here's a problem I had one time, hope it saves you or someone a trip to the computer store ... the sata plug on the MB to the hard drive should never be messed with while the power supply is plugged in. Blew my power supply just trying to see if the sata was plugged in properly ... I know, I know never put your hands inside a computer when it's plugged in, but I did ... I thought it was safe due to the whole unit was turned off. Power is still flowing through the MB to all of it's little plug in's. Good luck mate __________________

10-10-07, 11:43 AM	#3
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Hi SUBMAN1 I don't use a strap either but I also have experience. But I think your last statement was very dangerous. To the inexperienced that could very costly. Static damage is the most common cause of computer hardware failure and not covered under warrenty and is easy to tell. Our friend doesn't seemed to be all that experienced pointing out no thermal paste and doesn't know what a multimeter is or how to use it. It's one thing if your talking to a peer and quite another to someone with less experience who might be trying to wing it on their own. Anywho it is probably a moot point. We'll never know if he fryed something. I hope him the best of luck as I'm sure you all do. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

10-10-07, 01:02 PM	#5
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just thought of something else. Make absolutely sure that the MB and CPU power connectors are firmly placed in their sockets. If they are even slightly misaligned the connection won't be complete. __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan)

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10-10-07, 02:00 PM	#6
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Take it to a computer repair place and have them look at it. It's better to pay a diagnostic price than have to rebuy expensive hardware because you burned it.