North Sea Mines

[NiclDoe]

And NEVER go in the english channel either.

[bigboywooly]

The east coast barrage starts early 1940

The problem with minefields is if you up the density so its difficult for the uboat to go through then it leads to real slow downs on the player computer plus graphic anomalies as the game tries to render all those mines plus your uboat

So minefields have been reduced in density
You still have the chance of hitting a mine but the fields are nowhere near as dense as the really should be

Limitations of SH3 engine I am afraid

Minefields should be pretty devastating

6th January 1940

During the night of the 6th/7th, German destroyers of the 1st Flotilla, FRIEDRICH ECKHOLDT, ERICH STEINBRINCK, FRIEDRICH IHN, supported by KARL GALSTER, RICHARD BEITZEN, HERMANN SCHOEMANN laid mines in the Thames Estuary. Destroyer GRENVILLE and six merchant ships for 21,617 tons were lost in this field.

On the 6th, motor trawlerETA (81grt) six miles NW of Outer Gabbard Light Vessel, but the crew were saved.

On the 7th, steamer CEDRINGTON COURT (5160grt) two miles NE of North Goodwins Light Vessel in 51-22N, 1-35E. Again the crew were saved.

On the 7th, steamer TOWNELEY (2888grt) one mile ENE of North East Spit Buoy. The crew of the were saved when they rowed to shore in the Margate lifeboat.

On the 9th, steamer DUNBARCASTLE (10,002grt) of convoy OA.69 in 51‑23N, 01‑34E. Nine crew were lost and her survivors rescued by trawler CALVI (363grt) and other small ships.

On the 9th, Dutch steamer TRUIDA (176grt) in 51‑27N, 01‑50E. Her crew were rescued by Dutch trawler FRISO (250grt) which transferred them to Dutch steamer TIBERIUS (1712grt).

On the 15th, steamer KILDALE (3877grt) was damaged two miles east of South Shiphead Buoy.

On the 16th, Belgian steamer JOSEPHINE CHARLOTTE (3422grt) in 51‑32N, 01‑33E. Four crew were lost and the survivors rescued by British steamer MICKLETON (777grt).

On the 19th, destroyer GRENVILLE was sunk east of the Thames Estuary.

[andylegate]

Reading the above history, one has to wonder if each time they lost a ship to the mines like that if the mines were worth it? I mean letting everyone know where the mines were and of course clear areas for sailing more than likely would simply have made things about the same.

Sorry, but loosing anyone to friendly fire has always ticked me off

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by andylegate

Reading the above history, one has to wonder if each time they lost a ship to the mines like that if the mines were worth it? I mean letting everyone know where the mines were and of course clear areas for sailing more than likely would simply have made things about the same.

Sorry, but loosing anyone to friendly fire has always ticked me off

:rotfl:

Read it again

German mines laid off the Thames
Allied sea units sunk

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

From what I know about mines and the English east coast is that in 1940 you'll find mines layed in random patterns along the coast. But when they are all in place it seems imposable to get through. But there is a secret way that I can tell you about. There is a deep pocket of water near Hartlepool and you will find mines in that area but they are only at periscope depth so go aleast 10 meters below periscope depth and you can move freely under them.

[PapaG39]

What made me start to wondering about the mines was the fact that eight out of ten of my last patrols have been along the area that the picture on pg 55 shows where the mines are.
I was just wondering if perhaps they had replaced DD's for the mine scenario because of the cpu bog down problem with a thousand mines.

I do know that my patrol 10 in November/December 1939 the DD's have appeared in large numbers along the coast. they were operating in fast criss-cross type sweeps. Those buggers were coming at me from three different directions at once & I had one heck of a time staying out of their way...lol.. At one point I was between two convoys that were going in opposite directions. I was completely surrounded by DD's from both groups. I really have no idea how I got out of there.

If you get to near the coastline they would box you in, and I don't believe you could survive.

The big problem is Bdu orders...Germans did not disobey orders. They went to their assigned grid and did what they were told to do. And that is why all u-boats operating sent along the coast area were eventually sunk.

[bigboywooly]

Those DDs are from stock

They are set to " come alive " when you reach rendering range



Minefields were added by mods but the scripted DDs left in

All of those have been removed in GWX 1.04 and replaced by random patrols that are within the minefield and travel from one port to another or back to the original port