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Old 09-23-07, 05:41 PM   #1
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First of all, this guy still is a head of state of a UN member nation.
The bad guys disrespect protocol, the good guys play along.
But how about a pie attack??
Or better, a Pig attack??
Slapping him with a huge chunk of bavarian "Leberkäse" (made of pork) would do just fine
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Old 09-23-07, 06:09 PM   #2
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OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

But, y'know, the old standby of actually sitting a leader down at a table and asking him what exactly his beef is has worked once or twice in the past.
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Old 09-23-07, 07:36 PM   #3
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But, y'know, the old standby of actually sitting a leader down at a table and asking him what exactly his beef is has worked once or twice in the past.
Somehow I don't think that would accomplish much with this guy.
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Old 09-23-07, 07:51 PM   #4
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But, y'know, the old standby of actually sitting a leader down at a table and asking him what exactly his beef is has worked once or twice in the past.
Somehow I don't think that would accomplish much with this guy.
Everyone has their price.
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Old 09-24-07, 12:07 AM   #5
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I am interested to watch his interview live. Too much of media circus these days.
How come we always jump to violence as a way to solve our problems? Assassinating a leader of a sovereign nation is not a good idea, ever.
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Old 09-24-07, 12:19 AM   #6
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Well, you can let him rant and give the neo-cons more ammo for war and sabre-rattling, or you could try my favorite idea.

Have all the gays stage pro-Ahmedinijad marches and rallies and beam the TV coverage directly to Iran. Can you see the average Iranian seeing images of Sister Boom-Boom and the other Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence holding up big pics of your boy and signs saying, "Convert Me you savage."
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Old 09-24-07, 03:14 AM   #7
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I have an idea, perhaps all you Americans could act like children, throw hissy fits treat him disprespectfully and provide him with exactly what he wants. An opportunity to go back to Iran and tell his domestic audience that he went to America, tried to talk and the Americans acted like a bunch of toothless barbarians.

All this wringing of hands, impotent fist shaking, puerile stunts etc is exactly what he wants.

Ahmadinejad is a far shrewder politician than anyone you will find in Washington.
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Old 09-25-07, 08:28 AM   #8
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I am interested to watch his interview live. Too much of media circus these days.
How come we always jump to violence as a way to solve our problems? Assassinating a leader of a sovereign nation is not a good idea, ever.
Shooting Hitler when there still was time would have saved our ancestors a lot of suffering. Same could be said about so many: Mao Tse Tung, Stalin, Tamerlan, political leaders here, religious icons there... Millions and millions would have been saved from experiencing the worst of what man is capable of. Ahmadinejad does not hide his intentions,a nd speak them out loud and clearly, so why giving him the the benefit of doubt? He puts himself beyond the rules of humanitarianism and tolerant coexistence, so why allowing him to pick the freedoms and escape the duties from this? A not small, but significant amount of Iranians deliberately choose to follow him, and brought him to power. Why not holding them responsible for the choice they made? Isn't the latter a key part of democracy - that you are free to choose, but must accept to bear the responsibility for the consequences?
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Old 09-25-07, 10:17 AM   #9
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Shooting Hitler when there still was time would have saved our ancestors a lot of suffering. Same could be said about so many: Mao Tse Tung, Stalin, Tamerlan, political leaders here, religious icons there... Millions and millions would have been saved from experiencing the worst of what man is capable of. Ahmadinejad does not hide his intentions,a nd speak them out loud and clearly, so why giving him the the benefit of doubt? He puts himself beyond the rules of humanitarianism and tolerant coexistence, so why allowing him to pick the freedoms and escape the duties from this? A not small, but significant amount of Iranians deliberately choose to follow him, and brought him to power. Why not holding them responsible for the choice they made? Isn't the latter a key part of democracy - that you are free to choose, but must accept to bear the responsibility for the consequences?
But as you say, Ahmadinejad has a significant following back in Iran - and probably in other Arab countries, as well. If he was killed on American soil or even with implication of American involvement, do you suppose the discontent of his type towards the West would get better or worse? Pressing further U.S. hegemonic doctrine (which I think many in Ahmadinejad's camp would be quite happy to use as fuel for their fire) is not going to make many angry people change their minds about war with the West.

If you believe Ahmadinejad is an erratic and dangerous leader, then maybe it's better to have him in power. Plans to assassinate Hitler were ultimately scrapped because it was decided by British intelligence that it was better for the Allies to have Hitler alive and in charge - he was such a terrible strategist that if he was killed, not only would the Nazi party have more propaganda to throw at the Allies, but someone better and more competent in the affairs of war would take his place. I assume that if Ahmadinejad were assassinated, more invigorated and aggressive leadership would replace him.

I still favour dialogue to expose him for the rest of the [Arabic] world as the menace that we are confident he is. Then perhaps the Iranian public, and maybe even the Ayatollah, will rethink the direction they are headed in. If it fails, at least we can say that we tried, and that we did not repeat the same expedited mistakes as in Iraq.
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Old 09-25-07, 07:43 AM   #10
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But, y'know, the old standby of actually sitting a leader down at a table and asking him what exactly his beef is has worked once or twice in the past.
Somehow I don't think that would accomplish much with this guy.
Everyone has their price.


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