Kerry rally

[Skybird]

What Tonner said. I do not like the idea that whatever the police considers "appropriate" should and must be obeyed by civilians at all cost. This kind of uncritical law and order mentality reminds me of the german word "Kadavergehorsam", which originally referred to the expected blind obedience of soldiers and military contexts, but also means exactly this: blind obedience in all contexts. there is no room for that in the very idea of "democracy". Tonner mentioned "excessive force", and that'S what it is about. The incident, or others like this, must be examined, reviewed, and become the basis for correcting proecudres used by the police, so that it does not repeat. That way, the probability that a situation of using excessive force appears again, gets reduced, and by that the valdiity of the demand to comply with police demands gets raised. but the more often police demands, in the widest sense, are vunerable to criticism concerning their appropriateness, the more it is reasomnable, legal, and justified to resist them. In the end the goals does not justify all means - else you would need to accept that the man eventually would be shot dead with three officers sitting on him and holding his arms and legs down. And finally, the tazer was not used as a weapon in self defense, but as a disciplinary measure - that's how I see it. And that is totally unacceptable. It is the court's and judge's job to decide on disciplinary measures in the form of penalties, not the police's.