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Old 09-16-07, 07:06 PM   #1
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Penny thought right, and I agree with Brad above: I don't vote for parties, I vote for people.
I would say I vote for principles. The candidate with principles that I agree with gets my vote. Lower taxes, no illegal immigration, less govt. and take the fight to Al Queda and terrorists.
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Penny thought right, and I agree with Brad above: I don't vote for parties, I vote for people.
I would say I vote for principles. The candidate with principles that I agree with gets my vote. Lower taxes, no illegal immigration, less govt. and take the fight to Al Queda and terrorists.
Big on the knee-jerk stuff there.
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Old 09-16-07, 09:56 PM   #3
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Penny thought right, and I agree with Brad above: I don't vote for parties, I vote for people.
I would say I vote for principles. The candidate with principles that I agree with gets my vote. Lower taxes, no illegal immigration, less govt. and take the fight to Al Queda and terrorists.
Big on the knee-jerk stuff there.
It's the stuff that counts for me
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Penny thought right, and I agree with Brad above: I don't vote for parties, I vote for people.
I would say I vote for principles. The candidate with principles that I agree with gets my vote. Lower taxes, no illegal immigration, less govt. and take the fight to Al Queda and terrorists.
My question is, can we find that on the democrat "side of the aisle" who would abide by your policy stances? However . . . I think the catch is in keeping taxes low and having a small government.

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I think taxes have to be looked at from both ends. As in, what you're getting for your tax payments.
Saying that low taxes should be a goal is a little...myopic?
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I think taxes have to be looked at from both ends. As in, what you're getting for your tax payments.
Saying that low taxes should be a goal is a little...myopic?
For starters, I don't want my taxes supporting those that should be supporting themselves.

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Old 09-17-07, 10:24 AM   #7
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Myopic? My personal stance is that anyone who is in a position to make taxes should have the attitude that all taxes are evil. A necessary evil, perhaps, but evil nonetheless.
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Myopic? My personal stance is that anyone who is in a position to make taxes should have the attitude that all taxes are evil. A necessary evil, perhaps, but evil nonetheless.
I dislike tax on essensial items. (Basic houseing, basic food, water)

I dislike any form of universal or poll tax. (council tax!)

I fully support tax as penalty (alcohol, car, tabacco, pollution etc)

I am still undecided about industrial, and other buisness tax as I don't understand buisness economics as well as I should.

I have no problem with transaction tax (inheritance, import/export etc)

Finaly, I am all for luxery tax (electronics, media and all other non-essensial items)

One should be able live with out paying any tax as long as you lead a spartan life. No one should have to live below that standard because of lack of support.
I don't belive that anyone should earn more than is proportional to the work they do either, but that is wishful thinking.
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Myopic? My personal stance is that anyone who is in a position to make taxes should have the attitude that all taxes are evil. A necessary evil, perhaps, but evil nonetheless.
I dislike tax on essensial items. (Basic houseing, basic food, water)

I dislike any form of universal or poll tax. (council tax!)

I fully support tax as penalty (alcohol, car, tabacco, pollution etc)

I am still undecided about industrial, and other buisness tax as I don't understand buisness economics as well as I should.

I have no problem with transaction tax (inheritance, import/export etc)

Finaly, I am all for luxery tax (electronics, media and all other non-essensial items)

One should be able live with out paying any tax as long as you lead a spartan life. No one should have to live below that standard because of lack of support.
I don't belive that anyone should earn more than is proportional to the work they do either, but that is wishful thinking.
It is also personal opinion. What is proportional? What is fair, and who decides? The original purpose of the American form of government was to guarantee maximum personal freedom while also guaranteeing protection from each other. Government has no "rights", and freedoms aren't "allowed", they are natural rights which we create a government to protect.

The only reason for there ever to be a tax under that ideal is that government has no way of supporting itself. Taxes are to provide money so government can operate, and nothing else, including "punishing the rich".
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I think taxes have to be looked at from both ends. As in, what you're getting for your tax payments.
Saying that low taxes should be a goal is a little...myopic?
Not if you're someone who stives to have minimal need for govt support.
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I really do not know becuase im in school but my older sister says Democrat
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I really do not know becuase im in school but my older sister says Democrat
Don't support a political party or an individual running for office only because one or a couple of your family members support them. Don't support a political party or an individual running for office only because your friends or the in-crowd supports them. Rather, look at all the political parties out there, look at all the individuals running for office which you have an option to vote for, and research what they are about. Find out what they say that the stand for, and what their policy opinions are on various subjects. And then, choose for yourself, the one that matches your opinions on those policy questions.
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I really do not know becuase im in school but my older sister says Democrat
Don't support a political party or an individual running for office only because one or a couple of your family members support them. Don't support a political party or an individual running for office only because your friends or the in-crowd supports them. Rather, look at all the political parties out there, look at all the individuals running for office which you have an option to vote for, and research what they are about. Find out what they say that the stand for, and what their policy opinions are on various subjects. And then, choose for yourself, the one that matches your opinions on those policy questions.
Unless you like letting someone else do your thinking for you, in which case doing what your family tells you to do is probably your best bet...
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I really do not know becuase im in school but my older sister says Democrat
Don't support a political party or an individual running for office only because one or a couple of your family members support them. Don't support a political party or an individual running for office only because your friends or the in-crowd supports them. Rather, look at all the political parties out there, look at all the individuals running for office which you have an option to vote for, and research what they are about. Find out what they say that the stand for, and what their policy opinions are on various subjects. And then, choose for yourself, the one that matches your opinions on those policy questions.
Unless you like letting someone else do your thinking for you, in which case doing what your family tells you to do is probably your best bet...
The party bosses will be proud of you, if you just listen to exactly what they say, don't do any research of your own, and just vote "strait party ticket." Why don't you just hand them your ballot when you get to the polling station . . . no better yet . . . why don't you just forward all the ballots there were to be sent to you for the rest of your life to their political office. You don't need to concern yourself regarding the policy decisions of your "elected" government. I know I am using hyperbole . . . but isn't that what your basically doing?
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I would say I vote for principles. The candidate with principles that I agree with gets my vote. Lower taxes, no illegal immigration, less govt. and take the fight to Al Queda and terrorists.

Could'nt have been said better.
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