F1 Spy Row

[Tchocky]

Schumacher is the only sportsman ever to have been criticised for being *too* good.

That I've seen, anyway.

[Skybird]

I must say the debut season of Hamilton impresses me. It is a very promising start. To say he is the new Schumacher is too early. But if he races as successful next year as he did this year, it would be a strong hint that maybe he is the one who has what it takes to compete with Schumi-the-Giant. I currently can't see any other driver promising that potential. Hamilton is the hottest iron there currently is. If I were Ferrari, I would try all possible to get him. Unfortunately, he has a love for silver colour since his childhood.

[Sldghammer]

Schumacher the sportsman was sporting enough to try and win the WDC by running JV off the track (failed) and sporting enough to win the WDC by running DH off the track (succeeded).

Back on the topic, Mclaren deserved the punishment. However, a huge can of worms may have been opened. Both Toyota and Renault have been caught red-handed doing the same thing.

So what's going to happen to them?

Finally, it's all about money. BE and Mad Max know F1 is boring as hell. Very little to no passing. MS and Ferrari almost killed the sport with their domination. If they had kicked out Alonso and Hamilton, fans (other than the tifosi) would have left in droves.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Sldghammer

Schumacher the sportsman was sporting enough to try and win the WDC by running JV off the track (failed) and sporting enough to win the WDC by running DH off the track (succeeded).

While Hill and Villeneuve were saints, sure - the one not having the skills to overtake in a regular manner, the other not being in control of his hot temper. I do not know how often Hill had shot Schumi off the track. Three times? Four? Or was it even five times? There was that one season when allmost all drivers were just chuckling about Hill's driving skills.

As the saying goes: the wish often is bigger than the skill.

Schumi was no saint, and I even did not like him too much, and at least at two opportunities he used to play dirty tricks - like others also did, and still do (Alonso this year for example). But Schumi was by far not as worse as some others. He also made a longterm investement into one team, forming it to enable him to win the championship(s). That is also part of the winner's longterm perspective. To criticise him for having done so just is silly. Winners recognize the need to get a good racket, and maintain it properly.

[Penelope_Grey]

For what its worth my thoughts are, love Schumacher or hate him, the man was a winner, and while he did use dirty tricks, all the other greats have too. And I do feel he was hated a lot for the fact he was the best.

I know F1 because my father and brother discuss it at length.

Also, for as far as Lewis Hamilton goes, he is a flash in the pan. Much like Button, he will barely amount to a second rater. He is arrogant too, and given this is only his first year that arrogance is unfounded. Win a couple of World Titles then come back and talk like you know it all.

Also, it was he that played a dirty trick on Alonso first as I understand it... Hamilton went out again thus stopping Alonso going out, so Alonso held him up. Serve McLarens golden boy right.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

he is a flash in the pan.

Sorry, i don't know that. What does that phrase mean? From the context I understand it is not meant as a compliment.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Sorry, i don't know that. What does that phrase mean? From the context I understand it is not meant as a compliment.

Skybird

Something which disappoints by failing to deliver anything of value, despite a showy beginning.

[XabbaRus]

The whole thing stinks. Ferrari have been caught cheating many times but let off. I'm not denying McLaren did wrong but there are other teams involved in spying. Renault have admitted they have McLarne info when a Mc employee moved to Renault, took 3 cds worth of info.