Warming on hold.......cooling on the way?

[August]

Originally Posted by Captain Scribb

Global Climate Change is not reflected by a single day's temperature in a particular place. That's called "weather." I can just as easily counter that this has been one of the dryest summers in the southeast United States in the last 100 years, with records of consecutive 100 degree weather set. Likewise, that in and of itself doesn't prove GCC. I have yet to read an intelligent logical argument against GCC in THIS thread. Merely some who dismiss on the basis of ignorance and stubborness.

Maybe you should reread the whole thread because I don't think anyone is arguing against climate change, only it's causes.

[Tchocky]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6974475.stm

The Pope is calling for us to care for the planet.

Maybe he could help out by changing the Catholic Church's position on condoms, which would combat population growth.
Solar panels on the Vatican are fine, but there's a lot more he could be doing.

[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6974475.stm

The Pope is calling for us to care for the planet.

Maybe he could help out by changing the Catholic Church's position on condoms, which would combat population growth.
Solar panels on the Vatican are fine, but there's a lot more he could be doing.

100% agreement there. No energy saving/carbon reduction scheme is going to work as long as population growth remains unchecked.

[Captain Scribb]

Respectfully, I have read the entire thread and was responding to the multiple instances where specific weather at a particular area was stated as if it was evidence for or against GCC.

And there are, in fact, posts in this thread arguing against GCC. I am a bit confused as to how you think there aren't.

Reducing population growth wouldn't matter either, if we kept using fossil fuels.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Captain Scribb

Reducing population growth wouldn't matter either, if we kept using fossil fuels.

Indeed. Mind your that the minority of mankind in the west over the last decades has burned and consummed more resspurces than the majority rest of global population.

Now there are China. India. etc.

[kurtz]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Indeed. Mind your that the minority of mankind in the west over the last decades has burned and consummed more resspurces than the majority rest of global population.

Now there are China. India. etc.

So perhaps we should go with the sierra club with this and stop 3rd world immigration to the west. I mean if a person in the western world uses 6 times the energy of a 3rd world person it would make no sense to bring people over here to increase there carbon footprint six fold.

Go figure Liberals

[Letum]

Originally Posted by kurtz

So perhaps we should go with the sierra club with this and stop 3rd world immigration to the west. I mean if a person in the western world uses 6 times the energy of a 3rd world person it would make no sense to bring people over here to increase there carbon footprint six fold.

:hmm: And we could send you over to the 3rd world as well. I mean if a person in the
western world uses 6 times the energy of a 3rd world person it would make sense send
people over there.

[TteFAboB]

Originally Posted by August

100% agreement there. No energy saving/carbon reduction scheme is going to work as long as population growth remains unchecked.

That is all fine and dandy to keep the population stable, but the point is that there are too many people already, as Cpt. Scribb points out.

What needs to be changed is the position towards suicide. We need to start looking at suicide and euthanasia in a new light, and we need to remove our prejudice against the Nazi recycle of dead bodies. If people started suiciding more and their corpses were put to a good use we would depend less on fossil fuels, and since it would all be voluntary, there would be nothing wrong with it.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

That is all fine and dandy to keep the population stable, but the point is that there are too many people already, as Cpt. Scribb points out.

What needs to be changed is the position towards suicide. We need to start looking at suicide and euthanasia in a new light, and we need to remove our prejudice against the Nazi recycle of dead bodies. If people started suiciding more and their corpses were put to a good use we would depend less on fossil fuels, and since it would all be voluntary, there would be nothing wrong with it.

Close enough.

[August]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

That is all fine and dandy to keep the population stable, but the point is that there are too many people already, as Cpt. Scribb points out.

Well we can't stop world population from growing let alone keep it stable so the point is moot. In any case if global warming is caused by humans it's the numbers far more than how much each individual contributes which is the point i'm trying to make.

What needs to be changed is the position towards suicide. We need to start looking at suicide and euthanasia in a new light, and we need to remove our prejudice against the Nazi recycle of dead bodies. If people started suiciding more and their corpses were put to a good use we would depend less on fossil fuels, and since it would all be voluntary, there would be nothing wrong with it.

Ok now you're being a bit wierd...

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by August

100% agreement there. No energy saving/carbon reduction scheme is going to work as long as population growth remains unchecked.

I.T.D.S..

[August]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

I.T.D.S..

It's got nothing to do with demographics AL. Too many of one group is as bad as too many of any other group.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by August

It's got nothing to do with demographics AL. Too many of one group is as bad as too many of any other group.

Well then, toodaloo!

[The Avon Lady]

How many people here heard/read/saw the story about the melting Northwest Passage on radio, TV or in the paper? Raise you hand!



Now, how many people heard anything about this in the mass media?

<insert sound of crickets here>