Aircraft Carrier Truman

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Was it Rumsfeld? I'm not really sure. Thats right it was G Bush who said Mission accomplished or was that someone else?

Please stay on topic: 'shock and awe'.

As a moderator you should know changing the quote is out of bounds.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by waste gate

Please stay on topic: 'shock and awe'.

Well sir, you have changed you original post for "wrong you can show me otherwise" to

He may have used the term but I don't believe he stated it was a strategy or tactic.

Therefore, he may have stated this but I did not claim it was for strategy or tactic. You somehow read this into my statement of "This is what he ment by shock and awe." Apparently you did know who 'he' was or am I wrong on this account? At any rate, I'm not quite certain what you are getting at from a joking statement I posted relating to shock and awe.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Well sir, you have changed you original post for "wrong you can show me otherwise" to

Therefore, he may have stated this but I did not claim it was for strategy or tactic. You somehow read this into my statement of "This is what he ment by shock and awe." Apparently you did know who 'he' was or am I wrong on this account? At any rate, I'm not quite certain what you are getting at from a joking statement I posted relating to shock and awe.

Well, you are misplacing my comment, be that as it may. You have yet to show me where GWB, Don Rumsfeld or anyone in the US military establishment used the term 'shock and awe' when it came to Iraq strategy.

I certainly remember hearing it from the media.

[AVGWarhawk]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_and_awe

Now if you read my post I said "I believe it was G Bush" I did not emphatically state it was G Bush that said this statement. Hence by response on Rumsfeld with question mark. Be that as it may....... In all reality "he" could be anyone. Hence your question, 'Who is he?" My response, "I believe G Bush". The word "believe" meaning I'm not sure. But instead of setting the record straight that you do not BELIEVE he said this or anyone else other than the media without some support information leads me to wonder just what you are after:hmm:

Ok, the 'he' was the media guy...... Sound good?

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_and_awe

Now if you read my post I said "I believe it was G Bush" I did not emphatically state it was G Bush that said this statement. Hence by response on Rumsfeld with question mark. Be that as it may....... In all reality "he" could be anyone. Hence your question, 'Who is he?" My response, "I believe G Bush". The word "believe" meaning I'm not sure. But instead of setting the record straight that you do not BELIEVE he said this or anyone else other than the media without some support information leads me to wonder just what you are after:hmm:

Ok, the 'he' was the media guy...... Sound good?

I'm just after the truth. I suspect you are as well. Too many times what we hear or read that is attached to those who didn't say or do what the media reports. I understand how you or anyone else may have thought the 'shock and awe' phrase could have been attributed to GWB, Don Rumsfeld or the US military establishment. As we know now none of those people or entities had anything to do with it. It came from a 1996 report which sounded 'sexy' to the media (see blitz krieg).

I appreciate your honesty in the end and hope that in the future you won't spread mis/dis-information based on your political stand or the stand of the media.

Cheers
wg

[AVGWarhawk]

I appreciate your honesty in the end and hope that in the future you won't spread mis/dis-information based on your political stand or the stand of the media.

What kind of comment is that.....? Once again, I said, "I believe G Bush" I did not emphatically state it was G Bush. What part of that did you not understand? I would appreciate if you would read what is written and not read into it what you want. Spread of mis/dis-information good Lord. Arrogance becomes you! If you are after the truth then you would simply state that G Bush was incorrect, it was media type deal that brought it into focus. Yet we have several posts to get to the truth. I wonder if I said, I believe is was Daffy Duck'? How many posts to get to the truth? One can only guess.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

What kind of comment is that.....? Once again, I said, "I believe G Bush" I did not emphatically state it was G Bush. I would appreciate if you would read what is written and read into it what you want. Spread of mis/dis-information good Lord. Arrogance becomes you!

I read the 'believe'. Why didn't you read the 'I appreciate your honesty '?

[The Avon Lady]

Don't know which carrier this was but here's a nice video I found:

Cockpit view of a jet landing on an aircraft carrier.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by waste gate

Please stay on topic: 'shock and awe'.

As a moderator you should know changing the quote is out of bounds.

Ah ha....I do not moderate this forum. I leave my moderator hat at the door when I enter this forum. I have not authority here to do a thing other than post. BTW, you just changed your again.