The future and WWII sub sims...what would you like to see?

Mast · 08-17-07, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I've long dreamed of a flight sim which puts me in an actual replica cockpit,

Sailor Steve,

Have you tried IL-2 Sturmovik? Latest version is 1946. To me the cockpit modeling in this great flight sim is awesome. When you sit in the cockpit of any WWII aircraft, it is like the actual cockpit. No other game comes close.

Mast

Sailor Steve · 08-17-07, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mast

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I've long dreamed of a flight sim which puts me in an actual replica cockpit,

Sailor Steve,

Have you tried IL-2 Sturmovik? Latest version is 1946. To me the cockpit modeling in this great flight sim is awesome. When you sit in the cockpit of any WWII aircraft, it is like the actual cockpit. No other game comes close.

Mast

Good points, but I meant one with a frame surrounding me, and a canopy over my head, and the graphics projected onto the canopy.

TarJak · 08-17-07, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Originally Posted by Mast

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I've long dreamed of a flight sim which puts me in an actual replica cockpit,

Sailor Steve,

Have you tried IL-2 Sturmovik? Latest version is 1946. To me the cockpit modeling in this great flight sim is awesome. When you sit in the cockpit of any WWII aircraft, it is like the actual cockpit. No other game comes close.

Mast

Good points, but I meant one with a frame surrounding me, and a canopy over my head, and the graphics projected onto the canopy.

Why not just get some VR goggles and headse so that your head movements act like the POV hat. It can be done now... http://www.digit-life.com/articles/vfx3d/index.html

Fenris_Wolf · 08-18-07, 01:49 PM

I would like a MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online) game based on WWII with two factions (Axis and Allies) and with accurate simulation of the war and it's machinery. Let the video game players/simulation junkies duke it out all over again.

We could turn Flotillas into "guilds" (like the ones in existing MMOs like World of Warcraft, etc.). Man your boats with players (or AI characters), get upgrades and promotions for the reknown (or experience) and have fun.

Although I'm sure the devs, always having favoritisms, will imbalance and ruin it (like the class imbalance in WoW).

GoldenRivet · 08-18-07, 01:55 PM

for sailor steve... http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/ya...num=1150751413

imagine what you could do with that and a projector?

be sure to check out all of the pages of that post... the guy is putting together a serious simulator cockpit!

but BACK ON TOPIC i would like to see all the compartments and crew modeled.

kurtz · 08-18-07, 02:46 PM

How about english,french,italian and russian subs (apogies if I've left anybody out-americans have got theirs anyway with SHIV.
A multiplayer mode where participants could be different crew members...need a boat you can walk through though.
Captaining a destroyer would be fun.
How about boarding actions?

Incubus · 08-18-07, 08:24 PM

This has been requested in SHIV, but honestly I really want to skipper a Japanese I-boat. While their record in the war wasn't exactly stellar, they (and to a lesser extent, the Kriegsmarine) had an interesting record of trying out ideas that seemed neat on paper but didn't pan out in real life. It would be cool if they created a 'compilation' game, taking great elements from the SH series and making them into a game where you could run missions from all the major powers in WWII.

-US and KM have been covered fairly well.

-UK had subs, though I don't know if their fleets had as much noteriety as other nations. Pretty sure the british navy took a dim view to the idea of submarines; then again they had less need for commerce raiders outside the Mediterranean

-IJN's subs were intented to target warships- they used them in forward screens in several naval battles. They have a small yet impressive list of accomplishments, such as sinking a US CV in Midway and the sinking of the Indianapolis.

I think IJN missions would actually be pretty cool- there are plenty of people that spend lots and lots of time making this game harder w/mods. I think the IJN's sub fleet had the most uphill battle, particularly in 1945 when naval supremacy was all but a fleeting memory. Kaiten, subs carrying nuclear secrets, and even subs that could launch torpedo bombers would be a fun thing to play around with.

Sailor Steve · 08-19-07, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Why not just get some VR goggles and headse so that your head movements act like the POV hat. It can be done now... http://www.digit-life.com/articles/vfx3d/index.html

YEAH! That's what I want! I want one of those! Perfect for the next generation of flight sims! And I want new sub sims that use that! Heck, I might even start to like shooters if I could use something like that.

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

for sailor steve... http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/ya...num=1150751413

imagine what you could do with that and a projector?

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of, if the projection canopy was perfect (:rotfl: ).

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'd settle for online MP where you get to choose either sub or escort

Get SHII and Destroyer Command, download the Messerwetzer mods, go to Sub Club and have fun playing either sub or escort.

robj250 · 08-19-07, 12:25 PM

Didn't Hitler order that the U-boats were not ALLOWED to take prisoners but were to shoot and kill all they see.

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08-18-07, 01:49 PM	#4
Fenris_Wolf Sparky Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 155 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I would like a MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online) game based on WWII with two factions (Axis and Allies) and with accurate simulation of the war and it's machinery. Let the video game players/simulation junkies duke it out all over again. We could turn Flotillas into "guilds" (like the ones in existing MMOs like World of Warcraft, etc.). Man your boats with players (or AI characters), get upgrades and promotions for the reknown (or experience) and have fun. Although I'm sure the devs, always having favoritisms, will imbalance and ruin it (like the class imbalance in WoW).

08-18-07, 08:24 PM	#7
Incubus Planesman Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 195 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This has been requested in SHIV, but honestly I really want to skipper a Japanese I-boat. While their record in the war wasn't exactly stellar, they (and to a lesser extent, the Kriegsmarine) had an interesting record of trying out ideas that seemed neat on paper but didn't pan out in real life. It would be cool if they created a 'compilation' game, taking great elements from the SH series and making them into a game where you could run missions from all the major powers in WWII. -US and KM have been covered fairly well. -UK had subs, though I don't know if their fleets had as much noteriety as other nations. Pretty sure the british navy took a dim view to the idea of submarines; then again they had less need for commerce raiders outside the Mediterranean -IJN's subs were intented to target warships- they used them in forward screens in several naval battles. They have a small yet impressive list of accomplishments, such as sinking a US CV in Midway and the sinking of the Indianapolis. I think IJN missions would actually be pretty cool- there are plenty of people that spend lots and lots of time making this game harder w/mods. I think the IJN's sub fleet had the most uphill battle, particularly in 1945 when naval supremacy was all but a fleeting memory. Kaiten, subs carrying nuclear secrets, and even subs that could launch torpedo bombers would be a fun thing to play around with.

08-19-07, 12:25 PM	#9
robj250 Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Port Hardy, BC, Canada 75 yo with M.S. & C.O.P.D. & heart problems Posts: 1,930 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Didn't Hitler order that the U-boats were not ALLOWED to take prisoners but were to shoot and kill all they see.