Bush Commutes Libby Prison Sentence

[P_Funk]

When Ford let Nixon off that was the end of integrity on the White House. It wasn't that Nixon did some bad stuff. It was that after he was caught he got let off the hook.

The really bad part is that the American people just go with it. Its times like these that I really dig the French. As weird and snooty as they are, if the government does something they don't want they riot til they get what they want.

[August]

This is what Giuliani had to say about it:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...l?id=110010277

Speaking of justice, Mr. Giuliani has been more circumspect than some of his rivals on whether he would pardon I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby. And he repeated again that he wouldn't pardon Mr. Libby "right now." On the other hand, Mr. Giuliani advanced a pretty good argument that he should never have been tried. "Perjury has to be material--it has to relate to what you're investigating," he offered. "If someone goes in front of a grand jury and tells a lie about an insignificant fact, it's a lie but it isn't perjury. There's all kinds of lying that isn't criminal . . . If the investigation is about a non-crime, when you know who did it, how could anything be material to it?" That sounds an awful lot like an argument for a pardon, even if Mr. Giuliani seems to think the time may not be right.

According to a lawyer friend of mine, if Giuliani is right, and the court of appeals agrees, Bush will have spared an innocent man. If he had pardoned him outright, Libby would have been deprived of the opportunity to prevail in the appellate court.

[Onkel Neal]

I didn't like it when Clinton pardoned a slew of crooks, now Bush is doing it

Let us not forget that William Jefferson Clinton earned an impeachment via perjury and didn't spend any time in jail.

[P_Funk]

Originally Posted by waste gate

Let us not forget that William Jefferson Clinton earned an impeachment via perjury and didn't spend any time in jail.

Let us not forget that that was the saddest excuse for an impeachment ever. BJs in the Oval Office.

Originally Posted by P_Funk

Let us not forget that that was the saddest excuse for an impeachment ever. BJs in the Oval Office.

No, he was impeached for perjury.

[Iceman]

Yea good grief it's not that you took the cookie, it's that you Lied about it...this is the part that that no one I have yet seen have the BALLZ to stand up and say ya..ya know what, I did it,...I ate the cookie, it was great,,,shouldn't have done it, but damn it was good..."I'm Sorry".

The lack of remorse is what is pathetic for any of them.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by waste gate

No, he was impeached for perjury.

An attempted railroad job that failed. He wasn't impeached for anything. As far as I know he was found innocent.

[Enigma]

Babysteps?
Hell, it was only in the last 8 months we put a stop to paying full federal pensions to politicians who left office in disgrace after being convicted of felonies....

[PeriscopeDepth]

Clinton's impeachment was a political stunt, and a grandly successful one at that. Yes he lied, but about blowjobs. Not ratting out a CIA agent. Not that I like Clinton very much, but Libby and Co. deserved much more than a perjury conviction. It's a pity the only person they could get was Libby, and only on perjury.

PD

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

Clinton's impeachment was a political stunt, and a grandly successful one at that. Yes he lied, but about blowjobs. Not ratting out a CIA agent. Not that I like Clinton very much, but Libby and Co. deserved much more than a perjury conviction. It's a pity the only person they could get was Libby, and only on perjury.

PD

Libby ratted out no one. One Richard Armitage leaked the info, and the special prosecutor knew it before he took Libby to trial.

[Tchocky]

His conviction was hardly for "ratting" on anyone, though.

[Letum]

Imagine if this happend to Jeffory Archer in the UK! :rotfl::rotfl:
That would be street-violence time!

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I didn't like it when Clinton pardoned a slew of crooks, now Bush is doing it

Here here

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by P_Funk

When Ford let Nixon off that was the end of integrity on the White House. It wasn't that Nixon did some bad stuff. It was that after he was caught he got let off the hook.

The really bad part is that the American people just go with it. Its times like these that I really dig the French. As weird and snooty as they are, if the government does something they don't want they riot til they get what they want.

Ford said he had to think a lot about it and what he did, he did for the country not for Nixon. Ford cut his own throat and he knew he did but he did what he thought was right. The country had been through enough. Got to respect that. There isn't a politician alive today with that kind of courage.