what is the mini tweaker tool called?

in your best computer geek talk please tell me exactly (be specific so i know what to ask for) what the mini tweaker program is.

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SH3 Mini Tweaker is a simplified GUI program interface for changing general hex
game variables.
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ok i read that, but you google that and it only tells you to go read about it on subsim lol.

say i want to buy the program that does what it does, now what?

i don't believe its sold under the mini tweaker trademark so what program do i need to be able to make something like this? does it even exist out there or is it built from scratch specifically for sh3?

[CaptainCox]

It was SCRATCHED BUILT by Timetraveler for the sole purpose to be used with SH3, As to what prog he used to do it?...well Visual Basic or C++ is my bet. But he could also have been using a different program all together.

Originally Posted by CaptainCox

It was SCRATCHED BUILT by Timetraveler for the sole purpose to be used with SH3, As to what prog he used to do it?...well Visual Basic or C++ is my bet. But he could also have been using a different program all together.

well i am hard headed and refuse to believe what he did cant be replicated


if his tweaker cant be tweaked for sh4 then why cant the whole thing be duplicated instead of completely redone, then locating alternate folder would be eliminated


i opened the tweaker with hex editor but dont know what i was seeing but if i had it open, why wouldnt i be able to change stuff in it if i knew what to change?

[CaptainCox]

I think its not enough to hex edit it, you have to use a debugger to see what calls what etc. You are looking in to the world of programming if you start down this path.

There are a couple of guys on SS that have the know how to write proggs like this, Jaesen Jones is one of them (JSGME and SH Commander). I used to do hacks for the BF franchise so I know a tiny bit of programming but its some time ago and it is tedious work, believe me.

If you don't know anything about coding and programming its gonna be a hell of a job to "back engineer" this + get the knowledge and learn a program language just for this little feature.

[danlisa]

:hmm: Minitweaker can be used with SH4, you just need to write your own tweak files.

Just like NVDrifter did.

Generalised intructions on creating tweak files are contained in the Tweak file pack available on TT's site.

Unless, of course, there is a huge difference between SH3 & SH4 files.

[CaptainCox]

I think WEBSTER would like to have the Minitweaker point directly to SH4 instead of SH3, without having to point towards the folder. It might be possible but would need some serious back engineering...I think.

[danlisa]

Originally Posted by CaptainCox

I think WEBSTER would like to have the Minitweaker point directly to SH4 instead of SH3. It might be possible but would need some serious back engineering...I think.

I can understand that but is it worth the trouble?

I mean, you can select your installation path directory each time you open Minitweaker.

Infact, if your instalation of SH3 or SH4 differs from the default install location, MT will ask you for the path.

[Anvart]

Originally Posted by danlisa

:hmm: Minitweaker can be used with SH4, you just need to write your own tweak files.

Just like NVDrifter did.

Generalised intructions on creating tweak files are contained in the Tweak file pack available on TT's site.

Unless, of course, there is a huge difference between SH3 & SH4 files.

For MiniTweaker it's equally Sh3 or SH4 or other ...
Only, for each game (program) it is necessary to write the tweak files ...

Originally Posted by danlisa

I can understand that but is it worth the trouble?

I mean, you can select your installation path directory each time you open Minitweaker.

Infact, if your instalation of SH3 or SH4 differs from the default install location, MT will ask you for the path.

this is what i did to eliminate issues because i tweak both games and have caught myself tweaking sh3 for a sh4 mod lol, talk about screwing up files.

i change and test and change some more and selecting the path each time is real pain

i thought, copy the code as you would copy a tweak file, change the default path, rename as sh4 tweaker, add to sh4 tools, its sooo easy, or so i thought

i even had a brief moment where i thought that a dos program could do the changing with tweak files