PA planned homicide bombing with pregnant women

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by cobalt

I'm not sure I understand this part?

He means there are lots of smooth snakes with slitering tongues who promote the same agenda as you.

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

He means there are lots of smooth snakes with slitering tongues who promote the same agenda as you.

Or maybe he mean that: he doesn't live in Israel, so he's capable of an unbiased view on the subject

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by robbo180265

Or maybe he mean that: he doesn't live in Israel, so he's capable of an unbiased view on the subject

But of course! To live outside of Israel is to be unbiased.

/sarcasm

[Jimbuna]

Off to Brighton tomorrow for a week but this is one thread I will be keeping a close eye to via the Blackberry

[P_Funk]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

But of course! To live outside of Israel is to be unbiased.

/sarcasm

I think the real point is that to have an unbiased view of the Arab-Israeli conflict, ie. to criticize Israel in addition to the accepted criticism of the Palestinian Authority/Hamas/Anyone else thats associated with power in the occupied territories without receiving significant backlash, is nigh on impossible.

Its the fallacy of the false dilemma. Its one or the other. There are plenty of significant pro-zionists over the years that have been demonized for their criticism of Israel's policies. Much criticism is directed at the Anti-Defamation League for making the difference between anti-zionism and anti-semitism so narrow that any unequivocal criticism of Israel can be called as anti-semitic as at least a legitimate argumentative response.

The elementary point is that if the opening to your syllogy criticising Israel is 'bitch', then you don't have the stuff to be subtle enough.

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by P_Funk

I think the real point is that to have an unbiased view of the Arab-Israeli conflict, ie. to criticize Israel in addition to the accepted criticism of the Palestinian Authority/Hamas/Anyone else thats associated with power in the occupied territories without receiving significant backlash, is nigh on impossible.

Its the fallacy of the false dilemma. Its one or the other. There are plenty of significant pro-zionists over the years that have been demonized for their criticism of Israel's policies. Much criticism is directed at the Anti-Defamation League for making the difference between anti-zionism and anti-semitism so narrow that any unequivocal criticism of Israel can be called as anti-semitic as at least a legitimate argumentative response.

The elementary point is that if the opening to your syllogy criticising Israel is 'bitch', then you don't have the stuff to be subtle enough.

I agree with this statement - all of it, and as I said before I think that both sides are as bad as each other.

[Yahoshua]

Originally Posted by robbo180265

.....and as I said before I think that both sides are as bad as each other.

And why is it that you see both sides are equally evil?

I don't quite see how Israeli soldiers using arabs to serve search warrants to their neighbors (because the suspected terrorist is less likely to shoot his neighbor) is as bad as indoctinating young children to kill all dhimmi or blowing up Israeli pizza parlors.

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