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Old 05-31-07, 01:18 PM   #1
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The Arabs cant fight conventionally, when they do instead of terrorism, they get their ass kicked. Their culture and mentality doesnt enable them to look war or training for it, in a cool and analytical manner.
I think it is a matter of their leadership. Their officers feel entitled to their positions.

I went through my Basic Course with a couple of Egyptians in 1993. Many of the old tankers here remember the 10 Day War. (I've heard it's now the 7 Day War ) The two Egyptians basically did not feel they should have to go out and sleep in the field. It's hard to win any type of war, when your combat arms officers don't like going to the field.
Well that too, it relates to the serfculture they have. Ive allways liked systems where every man has to go through the same basic training and work their way up from there. We have that and so do the Israelis for exsample. I know US has that possibility, but i assume its more of an exception.
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Old 05-31-07, 01:44 PM   #2
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The Arabs cant fight conventionally, when they do instead of terrorism, they get their ass kicked. Their culture and mentality doesnt enable them to look war or training for it, in a cool and analytical manner.
I think it is a matter of their leadership. Their officers feel entitled to their positions.

I went through my Basic Course with a couple of Egyptians in 1993. Many of the old tankers here remember the 10 Day War. (I've heard it's now the 7 Day War ) The two Egyptians basically did not feel they should have to go out and sleep in the field. It's hard to win any type of war, when your combat arms officers don't like going to the field.
Well that too, it relates to the serfculture they have. Ive allways liked systems where every man has to go through the same basic training and work their way up from there. We have that and so do the Israelis for exsample. I know US has that possibility, but i assume its more of an exception.
You are correct about it being the exception in the United States, but really one of the smartest ways to pursue a military career in the American military.

If you earn a commission as an enlisted in the Regular Army, you will most likely be commissioned in the Regular Army. By going in as an officer, you may be commissioned into the Reserves or National Guard and serve no active duty time at all, or serve just a couple of years of active duty.

Even Academy graduates aren't guaranteed Regular Army any more.
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36% of the junior officer corp are leaving when their commitment ends nowadays. Main reason sited is Iraq.
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36% of the junior officer corp are leaving when their commitment ends nowadays. Main reason sited is Iraq.
That is very disturbing considering a few years ago they would have been killing each other to see their name on the Captains List in the Army Times.
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Old 05-31-07, 07:39 PM   #5
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36% of the junior officer corp are leaving when their commitment ends nowadays. Main reason sited is Iraq.
That is very disturbing considering a few years ago they would have been killing each other to see their name on the Captains List in the Army Times.
They are offering choices of training, $20,000 bonuses and some other stuff I can't remember for continuing service.


Edit: Here's a link with some information:
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyb...ficerbonus.htm
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...ention_crisis/
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36% of the junior officer corp are leaving when their commitment ends nowadays. Main reason sited is Iraq.
That is very disturbing considering a few years ago they would have been killing each other to see their name on the Captains List in the Army Times.
They are offering choices of training, $20,000 bonuses and some other stuff I can't remember for continuing service.


Edit: Here's a link with some information:
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyb...ficerbonus.htm
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...ention_crisis/
I find it interesting that it only applies to former Active Duty and not Reserve Officers.
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