Disgusting, mad, off-limits

[Frau_Phillips]

And yet millions of people will watch it. It's kind of like a car accident.

[AntEater]

The Netherlands have a history of pushing TV entertainment to the limit.
John de Mol poineered pretty much every TV entertainment format that is currently running (Big Brother, all those "idol" casting shows, etc) so I'm afraid this new format is here to stay...

[Q3ark]

Originally Posted by AntEater

The Netherlands have a history of pushing TV entertainment to the limit.
John de Mol poineered pretty much every TV entertainment format that is currently running (Big Brother, all those "idol" casting shows, etc) so I'm afraid this new format is here to stay...

Hmm so he's the git responsible for the degredation of British tv. Every time i turn the thing on its bloody pop idol this or big brother that, the only thing i watch these days is top gear, worth the licence fee all by itself

[kurtz]

Originally Posted by Frau_Phillips

And yet millions of people will watch it. It's kind of like a car accident.

yeah and the more people complain the more will watch it and probably phone in and make them loads.

I've got rid of my telly now, I found that everything that was shown was utter rubbish if not offensive. (In England there's a tax on TV and if you say you don't have one they just don't believe you).

ps Love your sig.

[FIREWALL]

[quote=kurtz]

Originally Posted by Frau_Phillips

And yet millions of people will watch it. It's kind of like a car accident.

yeah and the more people complain the more will watch it and probably phone in and make them loads.

I've got rid of my telly now, (In England there's a tax on TV


How are you going to know when they triple your Internet fee and tax your Computer.:rotfl:

[TteFAboB]

What a coincidence. The Eurobarometer has just released a report of a survey done at the end of last year on organ donation.

http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/a...bs_272d_en.pdf

My, my, what a surprise, one of the questions is: "Have you ever discussed organ donation with your family?" Netherlands leads the "Yes" rank at 75%.

On the other questions the country is always ranked near the top. But I haven't read this, just looked at the pretty figures. I suppose Endemol was expecting a warmer welcome to the show both in the NL and in the UK.

EDIT: Another coincidence, this same month the EU's Health official will start campaining for an EU-wide donor card: http://euobserver.com/9/24153

Brussels says the more the somewhat taboo issue is discussed within a family, the higher the willingness to donate.

This comes from the survey I mentioned above, it's the question I quoted.

"The most cost-effective means of increasing public willingness to donate seems to be improving the knowledge of health professionals and the media about transplantation issues," the commission's paper states.

But the latest attempt in the Netherlands to break the taboo on the issue has been strongly criticized.

Ah, this show was the latest attempt to break the taboo...how convenient it would have been had it not backfired somewhat.

I have noticed a small problem though:

Women should have rights over their bodies. Except when it comes to organs? These should be extracted. Interesting. You have the right to have your organs extracted. Seems like they give you a right to take something away from you in return. Clever. You think you're smart and priviledged, next thing you know you're one kidney short and your "right" can't filter blood as effectively.

[CCIP]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6714063.stm


HOAX! :hmm:

[Jimbuna]

Bloody sad if you ask me

[TteFAboB]

Fantastic. To condense everything:

My first assumption was wrong. It was extremely naive of me to suppose that the EU would be so smart as to use a reality show as an opinion survey. That would not only be free, but perhaps even turn out a little profit! No, the EU has jobs to justify and money to spend that would otherwise be redirected to a different department.

Yesterday there was still doubt wether the declarations of intentions were a last minute excuse to cover a fiasco or sincere. After this news it pends towards sincerity. However it started (did the government seek them first or vice-versa?), the show was neatly inserted in-between a chain of coincidences.

The chronological order of my known facts is this:

1) A real survey was done in October-November last year but conveniently reported at the beginning of May.

2) Assuming the producers are sincere and not hiding behind false intentions, from the very beginning this thing was meant to be a debate kick-starter, a trigger. No doubt that given the results of the survey they were expecting a warmer welcome, especially in Holland. The announcement about this show took place later in May.

3) At the end of May the EU's health commissioner starts a push for an EU-wide donor card. If the show had received a better reception not only would the H-commissar have his project approved in a flash but the favorable atmosphere could be carried over into June, allowing the EU to pass any other law it saw fit.

Now let's wait and see if this mess increases organ donations.

[Skybird]

Oups, this time they got me. I certainly thought it was real.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Oups, this time they got me. I certainly thought it was real.

Not just you.

The moral of the story folks; If you don't believe in something, you'll fall for anything. 'Global warming' and 'climate change' comes to mind. Marxism and socialism are other examples. Political correctness.........the list goes on and on.

Here is another kidney story:
THIS IS TRUE STORY, RING THE BOTTOM NUMBER IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IT!! Medical Centre phone number at the end of this story is real. This guy went out on a Saturday night a few weeks ago to a party. He was having a good time and had a couple of beers and some girl seemed to like him and invited him to go to another party. He quickly agreed and decided to go along with her. She took him to a party in some apartment and they continued to drink, and even got involved with some drug (unknown).

The next thing he knew, he woke up completely naked in a bathtub filled with ice. He was still feeling the effects of the drugs, but looked around to see he was alone. He looked down at his chest, which had CALL 000 or YOU'LL DIE" written on it with lipstick. He saw a phone was on a stand next to the tub so he picked it up and dialled. He explained to the EMS operator what the situation was and that he didn't know where he was, what he took, or why he was really calling. She advised him to get out of the tub. He did, and he appeared normal, so she told him to check his back. He did, he found two 9 inch slits on his lower back. She told him to get back into the tub immediately, and they sent a rescue team over.

Apparently, after being examined, he found out more of what had happened. His kidneys were stolen. They were worth $10,000 each in the black market.Several guesses are in order: The second party was a sham, the people involved had to be at least medical students and it was not just recreational drugs he was given. Regardless, he is currently in the hospital on a life support, awaiting a spare kidney. The University of Sydney in conjunction with the Royal Prince Alfred hospital is conducting tissue research to match the victim with a donor.

I wish to warn you about a new crime ring that is targeting business travellers. This ring is well organized and well funded, has very skilled personnel and is currently operating in most major cities around the world and recently very active in Sydney . The crime begins when a business traveller goes to a lounge for a drink at the end of the work day. A person in the bar walks up as they sit alone and offers to buy them a drink. The last thing the traveller remembers until they wake up in a hotel room bathtub, their body submerged to their neck in ice, is sipping that drink.

There is a note taped to the wall instructing them not to move and to call 000. A phone is on the small table next to the bathtub for them to call. The business traveller calls 000 who have been quite familiar with this crime. The business traveller is instructed by the 000 operator to very slowly and carefully reach behind them and feel there i s a tube protruding from the back. The business traveller finds the tube and answers "YES". The 000 operator tells them to remain still, having already sent paramedics to help. The operator knows that both of the traveller's kidneys had been harvested.

This is not a scam or out of science fiction novel. It is real. It is documented and confirmable. If you travel or someone close to you travels, please be careful. Sadly,this is very true. My friend's husband is a Sydney EMT and they have received alerts regarding this crime ring. It is to be taken very seriously. The daughter of a friend of a fire-fighter had this happen to her.

Skilled doctors are performing these crimes! (which, by the way have been highly noted in the Brisbane area). Additionally, the military has received alerts regarding this. I REALLY WANT AS MANY PEOPLE TO SEE THIS AS POSSIBLE SO PLEASE BOUNCE THIS TO WHOEVER YOU CAN. (Person's Name) DML/Lab Administration Medical Manager Research And Development [CONTACT DETAILS REMOVED]

PLEASE forward this to everyone you know

[kurtz]

Originally Posted by waste gate

The moral of the story folks; If you don't believe in something, you'll fall for anything. 'Global warming' and 'climate change' comes to mind. Marxism and socialism are other examples. Political correctness.........the list goes on and on.

Here is another kidney story:
THIS IS TRUE STORY, RING THE BOTTOM NUMBER IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IT!! Medical Centre phone number at the end of this story is real. This guy went out on a Saturday night a few weeks ago to a party. He was having a good time and had a couple of beers and some girl seemed to like him and invited him to go to another party. He quickly agreed and decided to go along with her. She took him to a party in some apartment and they continued to drink, and even got involved with some drug (unknown)

The next thing he knew, he woke up completely naked in a bathtub filled with ice. He was still feeling the effects of the drugs, but looked around to see he was alone. He looked down at his chest, which had CALL 000 or YOU'LL DIE" written on it with lipstick. He saw a phone was on a stand next to the tub so he picked it up and dialled. He explained to the EMS operator what the situation was and that he didn't know where he was, what he took, or why he was really calling. She advised him to get out of the tub. He did, and he appeared normal, so she told him to check his back. He did, he found two 9 inch slits on his lower back. She told him to get back into the tub immediately, and they sent a rescue team over.

Apparently, after being examined, he found out more of what had happened. His kidneys were stolen. They were worth $10,000 each in the black market.Several guesses are in order: The second party was a sham, the people involved had to be at least medical students and it was not just recreational drugs he was given. Regardless, he is currently in the hospital on a life support, awaiting a spare kidney. The University of Sydney in conjunction with the Royal Prince Alfred hospital is conducting tissue research to match the victim with a donor.

I wish to warn you about a new crime ring that is targeting business travellers. This ring is well organized and well funded, has very skilled personnel and is currently operating in most major cities around the world and recently very active in Sydney . The crime begins when a business traveller goes to a lounge for a drink at the end of the work day. A person in the bar walks up as they sit alone and offers to buy them a drink. The last thing the traveller remembers until they wake up in a hotel room bathtub, their body submerged to their neck in ice, is sipping that drink.

There is a note taped to the wall instructing them not to move and to call 000. A phone is on the small table next to the bathtub for them to call. The business traveller calls 000 who have been quite familiar with this crime. The business traveller is instructed by the 000 operator to very slowly and carefully reach behind them and feel there i s a tube protruding from the back. The business traveller finds the tube and answers "YES". The 000 operator tells them to remain still, having already sent paramedics to help. The operator knows that both of the traveller's kidneys had been harvested.

This is not a scam or out of science fiction novel. It is real. It is documented and confirmable. If you travel or someone close to you travels, please be careful. Sadly,this is very true. My friend's husband is a Sydney EMT and they have received alerts regarding this crime ring. It is to be taken very seriously. The daughter of a friend of a fire-fighter had this happen to her.

Skilled doctors are performing these crimes! (which, by the way have been highly noted in the Brisbane area). Additionally, the military has received alerts regarding this. I REALLY WANT AS MANY PEOPLE TO SEE THIS AS POSSIBLE SO PLEASE BOUNCE THIS TO WHOEVER YOU CAN. (Person's Name) DML/Lab Administration Medical Manager Research And Development [CONTACT DETAILS REMOVED]

PLEASE forward this to everyone you know

Oh no! the phone numbers gone, I'm sure if I'd have rung it, the story would have been confirmed by a reliable witness, despite this looking like the usuall stupid kidneys stolen internet story.

I'm sure that like all the non believers in global warming, commie plots etc that the actual facts aren't important and what is important is the general theory that a tv prog. like this could be made.

It all seems so plausible combining all the tediousness of reality TV with the tacky grabbing for attention we in England have come to expect from Channel 4/Endemol-go ahead sue me guys.

I'm more inclined to believe they were floating this as an idea to see if there would be enough sick people to watch it.

M