Drawings, seized from Iraq safe house

[Letum]

Another of many evils in the world.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in680658.shtml

[August]

Originally Posted by Letum

Another of many evils in the world.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in680658.shtml

Surely you aren't comparing a US prisoner death rate of .001% to what Al Quaeda does to those it captures are you?

[Letum]

Originally Posted by August

Surely you aren't comparing a US prisoner death rate of .001% to what Al Quaeda does to those it captures are you?

I am comparing deaths under Al Qaeda torture to deaths under US torture. That makes sense right? Im not saying they are the same, I am just comparing them.

It's .002% btw, but that's irrelevant, there is no acceptable rate for violent torture and abuse of prisoners by AQ or the US and both should be bought to account.

What would you call this?

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or this,





the remains

Warning, graphic
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[Letum]

Originally Posted by waste gate

What would you call this?

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or this,

the remains
[pic edited out, common WG, this is a forum for all ages and dispositions; no need for that kinda thing, please link with a warning it if you must include it in your post]

What do you mean what do I call it?
It's clearly a highly tragic and malicious event.
What it is not is a excuse for more malicious actions, on any scale.

I don't quite see the point your trying to make.

If more people saw the results of the attack on the WTC they wouldn't be so skitish about what the US role is. They would consider what is and is not torture. And who is and who is not the enemy.

I'll show it again: This is the result of falling 1500'.
Warning, graphic
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[Heibges]

The images are certainly very graphic. Frankly, I would not base my code of conduct on that of the terrorists.

I can't justify anything that causes United States Military Officers to be put into the position to violate their sworn Code of Conduct.

[cobalt]

Originally Posted by waste gate

Warning, graphic
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i have the same pen!

[August]

Originally Posted by Letum

I am comparing deaths under Al Qaeda torture to deaths under US torture. That makes sense right? Im not saying they are the same, I am just comparing them.

Exactly and i'm saying there is no comparison.

It's .002% btw, but that's irrelevant, there is no acceptable rate for violent torture and abuse of prisoners by AQ or the US and both should be bought to account.

.00166 actually, and it is highly relevant. You'll never see any army ever that won't have some of its members cross the line but unlike our enemies the US has little tolerance for it and punishes the transgressors when we catch them. AQ on the other hand glorifies torture and murder.
You don't see a basic difference in that?

[Frau_Phillips]

Question: Why is the horrific image of a man plummeting to his death not worthy of a warning? That one disturbed me more than the undescriptive muck.