Type VIIB is the Most Agile U-Boat

Vacillator · 05-22-07, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Genghis Khan

I am going to fight until the end of the war with this Type VIIB U-47.

I wish you luck and hope your war does not end too soon

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I can't really comment as I have little experience in anything other than a VIIB (also U47 would you believe). I have tried the odd IX mission just for fun, and I liked them.
Time to try out a XXI soon.

danurve · 05-22-07, 08:01 AM

If you get far enough you can get the secondary flak platform for the VIIB.
Not that by that time of the war it will do alot of good, but it looks cool

Chock · 05-22-07, 08:28 AM

Upgrading to the VIIC in real life would give you more reliable electrics, greater range, a slightly faster dive time and probably a happier crew too, since it had more room inside. Additionally, later variants of the VIIC with the 'Atlantic bow' were more seaworthy and had a greater diving depth capability as well as greater resistance to damage, owing to the thicker gauge steel used in their construction. Then there is also the 'sixth tube' to consider; confering the ability to use pilenwerfers and decoy torpedoes on later boats, was a real advance. Whether any of these factors are in the sim - or any mods you might have - to any great degree is debatable however.

I can understand you being attached to your boat though. But for me, being able to go deeper - and do so quicker - outweighs any advantage that a tighter turn confers, since greater depth extends the transit time for the depth charges, time in which you can be 'hauling ass'. Like in fighter planes, turning ability is more of a defensive attribute than an offensive one, a nimble fighter might be able to out-turn an enemy, but a faster one can break off and re-engage at will. Of course this analogy is not fully comparable with U-Boats when we are talking about destroyers that can outpace us all, but short of turning around to fire a single stern shot after having expended all your bow tubes, to me there seems little offensive reason to value a faster turn.

But, if you like your boat, and it suits your style, maybe that's a good enough reason above all others.

Chock

Platapus · 05-22-07, 06:58 PM

I like my VIIB. It has been with me since the start. I am getting it tricked out pretty good and would hate to lose all that renown getting a VIIC and all the extras

I am sure I am not the only one wishin I could buy a VIIC and have all my extras transfered over (sigh)

I guess there will be a point the when it is more advantagious to upgrade to VIIC but until then, I wonder if I should continue spending renown on VIIB upgrades or keep 'ol reliable the way she is until I move up to VIIC?

Kinda hate to see my VIIB go away. She has taken real good care of me. Brought me back when I did not think I had a chance. It just does not seem right to abandon her and see her turned into razor blades.

Not a fitting end to an honourable lady. I think it is only right that we both take that final dive together. I don't think I would like another gray lady after that.

Iron Budokan · 05-22-07, 09:46 PM

I've never been a huge fan of the VIIB. (My 9 year old son on the other hand swears by 'em.) To me they've always been sort of like the forgotten stepchild between the IID and the VIIC.

I don't hate 'em, mind you. I've just mostly viewed them as a stepping stone to a VIIC.

05-22-07, 08:01 AM	#2
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	If you get far enough you can get the secondary flak platform for the VIIB. Not that by that time of the war it will do alot of good, but it looks cool __________________

05-22-07, 09:46 PM	#5
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I've never been a huge fan of the VIIB. (My 9 year old son on the other hand swears by 'em.) To me they've always been sort of like the forgotten stepchild between the IID and the VIIC. I don't hate 'em, mind you. I've just mostly viewed them as a stepping stone to a VIIC. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

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05-22-07, 08:28 AM	#3
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Upgrading to the VIIC in real life would give you more reliable electrics, greater range, a slightly faster dive time and probably a happier crew too, since it had more room inside. Additionally, later variants of the VIIC with the 'Atlantic bow' were more seaworthy and had a greater diving depth capability as well as greater resistance to damage, owing to the thicker gauge steel used in their construction. Then there is also the 'sixth tube' to consider; confering the ability to use pilenwerfers and decoy torpedoes on later boats, was a real advance. Whether any of these factors are in the sim - or any mods you might have - to any great degree is debatable however. I can understand you being attached to your boat though. But for me, being able to go deeper - and do so quicker - outweighs any advantage that a tighter turn confers, since greater depth extends the transit time for the depth charges, time in which you can be 'hauling ass'. Like in fighter planes, turning ability is more of a defensive attribute than an offensive one, a nimble fighter might be able to out-turn an enemy, but a faster one can break off and re-engage at will. Of course this analogy is not fully comparable with U-Boats when we are talking about destroyers that can outpace us all, but short of turning around to fire a single stern shot after having expended all your bow tubes, to me there seems little offensive reason to value a faster turn. But, if you like your boat, and it suits your style, maybe that's a good enough reason above all others. Chock

05-22-07, 06:58 PM	#4
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,439 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I like my VIIB. It has been with me since the start. I am getting it tricked out pretty good and would hate to lose all that renown getting a VIIC and all the extras I am sure I am not the only one wishin I could buy a VIIC and have all my extras transfered over (sigh) I guess there will be a point the when it is more advantagious to upgrade to VIIC but until then, I wonder if I should continue spending renown on VIIB upgrades or keep 'ol reliable the way she is until I move up to VIIC? Kinda hate to see my VIIB go away. She has taken real good care of me. Brought me back when I did not think I had a chance. It just does not seem right to abandon her and see her turned into razor blades. Not a fitting end to an honourable lady. I think it is only right that we both take that final dive together. I don't think I would like another gray lady after that.