Better framerate with 1.3 patch ?

[Hartmann]

one question is if UBI have plans for a 1.3 patch.

in case of this there are other priority like bugs, but i think that the graphic engine is not optimized , also there are glitches still with 1.2.

my system is low end (2400, and gf 6600) but i have some strange slowdowns, from 20 fps to 10, curiosly when i ordered periscope depth the frames go up before the sub dives to the requested depth, also at night there is always like a moon reflection in the sea, but no moon in the sky.:hmm:

but could be nice if devs have more time for improved the graphic performance before UBI dissolve the team.

[MikeJW]

I went into the main.cfg and under development tools, I think it was, I set all 3 options to "No". That gave me an extra 20-30 fps.

[CaptainHaplo]

The above suggestion helps. But seriously - at anything above 20 - your not seeing much - its a number - little more. These are DRAWS of the screen (FRAMES) per second here... anything over 20 is smooth and easily playable. Patch 1.2 was - more than anything else - a graphics patch (including engine tweaks for better framerates).

To many people have gotten caught up in the FPS comparison - vs gameplay.

The last thing SH4 needs is another graphix patch. When SH4 has the major bugs fixed, or better yet all of the 80 some odd documented bugs/missing but documented "features" - then and only then should work on "tweaking" the graphics engine be a concern. Until then - asking for better framerates is like snow white asking the witch for a prettier poisoned apple - its still not right!

Dont get me wrong - if framerates over what the engine delivered really contributed to making the game better - I would support it. But this isnt a first person shooter - the game needs to be smooth and playable - but gameplay should always (and post 1.2 especially) take a backseat to pretty pictures on a canvas of under the hood problems.

I am sure many are going to tell me that I am missing the point because I dont run at 32000x22000 resolution on a 52" plasma display and so I can't understand how not having a fps above 60 (which is the max the average human eye can see btw) just kills the game. Sorry - but last time I checked - this stuff we do is still called PLAYing a GAME - thus GAMEPLAY is important. When what we do is called WATCHING PRETTY PICTURES - then graphix should be the ruling criteria. If that day ever comes - then I won't be part of the scene.

Yes - I know pretty graphix sell games - but so does good gameplay. One of the best naval warfare simulators of the ww1/2 era (surface ships only) is Naval Gunnery Campaigns. It started out as Raider Operations for those who may have heard of it. Written by one man - his focus was gameplay. He let a number of us test it, and was kind enough to give us a place in the credits. But no matter how many people tried to change his focus - he stayed on what he knew was right - and guess what - the game was released with CGA graphics - think Silent Service 2 - but the GAMEPLAY is the most realistic you will find in the genre. No - he won't make a million dollars from the game - but he delivered an excellent product to those who wanted a true simulation. Many of us bought this game with that same desire - and while the eye candy crowd has gotten their attention with 1.2 - its about time that some real attention was paid to the rest of us.

I get passionate about this topic - but I mean no disrespect to those that differ with my view. I just think that its time to straighten out this game - make it what it could truly be - and more attention to graphix isnt how to do it...

[MikeJW]

The thing is the 1.2 patch hurt FPS without doing anything. I have a 2.66 D2C and after 1.2 I was getiing 20 something FPS on the bridge. Fine, except when there was action going on and it dipped to the low teens or single digits. I messed with the main.cfg as the dev tool garbage does nothing and my FPS shot up to the high 50's, low 60's on the bridge giving me more room to spare when the Pacific goes crazy. yeah, 20-25 FPS is playable but if thats what your getting on the bridge when it's calm your going to be hurting when in a convoy and DCs start dropping. It doesnt need a graphics patch but 1.3 needs to disable the dev tool lines in the main.cfg.

[U-Bones]

Originally Posted by MikeJW

The thing is the 1.2 patch hurt FPS without doing anything. I have a 2.66 D2C and after 1.2 I was getiing 20 something FPS on the bridge. Fine, except when there was action going on and it dipped to the low teens or single digits. I messed with the main.cfg as the dev tool garbage does nothing and my FPS shot up to the high 50's, low 60's on the bridge giving me more room to spare when the Pacific goes crazy. yeah, 20-25 FPS is playable but if thats what your getting on the bridge when it's calm your going to be hurting when in a convoy and DCs start dropping. It doesnt need a graphics patch but 1.3 needs to disable the dev tool lines in the main.cfg.

Why have devs editing text files that we already know about? We need them to fix things like AI and damage control, and to tell us how to tweak things we don't know about yet.

[Stary Wuj]

Originally Posted by MikeJW

I went into the main.cfg and under development tools, I think it was, I set all 3 options to "No". That gave me an extra 20-30 fps.

Please, tell me about options You changed........and where exactly

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

[XanderF]

Don't disabling the 'debug' settings still result in a pretty big FPS increase?

That might be something to try.

[MikeJW]

Originally Posted by Stary Wuj

Please, tell me about options You changed........and where exactly

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

Program Files/Ubisoft/SH4/Data/Cfg

Look for main.cfg and open with Notepad. Find

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=Yes
DevEditEnable=Yes
MiniDump=yes


Change to

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=No
DevEditEnable=No
MiniDump=No

and save your changes.

[XanderF]

Originally Posted by MikeJW

Program Files/Ubisoft/SH4/Data/Cfg

Look for main.cfg and open with Notepad. Find

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=Yes
DevEditEnable=Yes
MiniDump=yes


Change to

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=No
DevEditEnable=No
MiniDump=No

and save your changes.

Hmmm...I thought it was the "main.cfg" in "My Documents\SH4\data\cfg"?

[Stary Wuj]

Thank You very much!!!

Will try

Best Regards und fette beute

Stary Wuj

[Brassusdk]

I changed syncronized ( under VIDEO) to =YES in one of the main.cfg¨s - there are 2 main.cfg. 1 in the game folder, 1 in the ducument folder.
there you can also change framerate - mine runs 75 fps now

makes my game smoother