Excerpt from "Silent Sea" about Tankers

AVGWarhawk · 05-09-07, 12:34 PM

I found it on Amazon for $12.50 and that included shipping

Silence · 05-09-07, 12:45 PM

So, what is the best way to sink one of these compartmentilized torpedo-proof ships?

banjo · 05-09-07, 02:09 PM

I just tried something I discovered in SH3--shot torps at 3 tankers at the default depth. Sank two with two torps and one with 1 torp. It was always my opinion in SH3 that the default depth setting was as effective or more so than messing with them. I am beginning to think that's true in this game as well.

Canonicus · 05-09-07, 02:21 PM

Thats a great read, mates......

...Homewood spins a story that's right up there with Beach

Capt. D · 05-10-07, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Canonicus

Thats a great read, mates......

...Homewood spins a story that's right up there with Beach

That's the sequal to Final Harbor another great read. If you read that first Silent Sea will fall in place very well.

Happy Hunting

-Pv- · 05-10-07, 09:52 PM

If I get a good keel shot, it's very rare when I can't put a medium or smaller ship down with one or two torps. I've never had to fire more than 2 on large freighters or cruise ships if one of the hits was under the keel. I've never had a ship break in half unless one of the hits was a keel and those are satisfying enough to try for. I've also never had a ship keep going for very long after a keel hit even if the damage from it wasn't enough to sink it outright.
-Pv-

gi_dan2987 · 07-11-11, 12:29 AM

Every ship has some amount of armored plating set to a certain depth below the waterline. Some more than others both in thickness and depth. Your fish with impact fuses need to be below that armored jacket to be truly effective. The SH4 user manual comes with all that information, and how many evenly spaced torps it should take to sink various types of ships. It is effective and usually works to specs if they're deep enough and you've got enough hits according to tonnage and type. One thing I don't agree with is a 4"/50 Cal. Deck gun taking 90 seconds to reload

specifications put the test fire rate at 8-9 shells per minute, or a shot every 5-6 seconds or so. I can understand bad weather increasing that time somewhat, but if it's calm enough to man the guns, then it's calm enough to keep up with those fire rates. Sure I can see ships taking multiple hits from AP shells at the waterline and still staying above water, but it shouldn't take no 100 shells to put down a fishing trawler

IMO there is some tweaking that needs to be done with these issues in RFB 1.4

sean705 · 05-09-07, 02:22 PM

I only go for un-escorted tankers, the one in convoys I usually leave alone. I've found the best tactic for me is to put a few fish into the tanker to slow it down (usually trying to aim for the aft end) and then surface and use HE deck gun ammo to set her ablaze

Silence · 05-09-07, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sean705

I only go for un-escorted tankers, the one in convoys I usually leave alone. I've found the best tactic for me is to put a few fish into the tanker to slow it down (usually trying to aim for the aft end) and then surface and use HE deck gun ammo to set her ablaze

Thanks for the tip sean! Seems the deck gun is getting a lot of use. During my current mission I have sunk seven ships with it, and only used one torp!

Saving me torps for the big stuff that shoots back.

NefariousKoel · 05-09-07, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by banjo

I just tried something I discovered in SH3--shot torps at 3 tankers at the default depth. Sank two with two torps and one with 1 torp. It was always my opinion in SH3 that the default depth setting was as effective or more so than messing with them. I am beginning to think that's true in this game as well.

I've been mixing it back and forth too. It kinda seems that at default depth (or only slightly lower) it is most effective.

donut · 05-09-07, 05:43 PM

The consensus is correct, they are tough! Tactic:the engine rm.is under the stack,
fuel storage,is right aft of crude bunkers,& 10 ft. below waterline,just fwd of aft bridge.try 2 torps in that sweet spot,leave her hove to,& gun her down,after you clean the convoy's clock,& all is cool. We did a photo op,and there was a lg.Tanker
in-port.After 2 fish to the fuel,she lit up,but had to shell her to get destroyed!

Cap'n Crabs · 05-09-07, 11:16 PM

I agree with Banjo, large tankers aside, cause they are tough. But any other ship, I set my torps at 8-9 in depth and seem to have much more success than trying to set them deeper or under the keel. Shallow for the win!

Sailor Steve · 05-10-07, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Silence

So, what is the best way to sink one of these compartmentilized torpedo-proof ships?

Try to break his back. Nobody sails away when he's in two pieces.

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donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Med/Lg.Tankers The consensus is correct, they are tough! Tactic:the engine rm.is under the stack, fuel storage,is right aft of crude bunkers,& 10 ft. below waterline,just fwd of aft bridge.try 2 torps in that sweet spot,leave her hove to,& gun her down,after you clean the convoy's clock,& all is cool. We did a photo op,and there was a lg.Tanker in-port.After 2 fish to the fuel,she lit up,but had to shell her to get destroyed! Last edited by donut; 05-09-07 at 06:10 PM.

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05-09-07, 02:09 PM	#3
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	I just tried something I discovered in SH3--shot torps at 3 tankers at the default depth. Sank two with two torps and one with 1 torp. It was always my opinion in SH3 that the default depth setting was as effective or more so than messing with them. I am beginning to think that's true in this game as well.

05-09-07, 02:21 PM	#4
Canonicus XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In your baffles... Posts: 434 Downloads: 624 Uploads: 7	Thats a great read, mates...... ...Homewood spins a story that's right up there with Beach

05-10-07, 09:52 PM	#6
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	If I get a good keel shot, it's very rare when I can't put a medium or smaller ship down with one or two torps. I've never had to fire more than 2 on large freighters or cruise ships if one of the hits was under the keel. I've never had a ship break in half unless one of the hits was a keel and those are satisfying enough to try for. I've also never had a ship keep going for very long after a keel hit even if the damage from it wasn't enough to sink it outright. -Pv-

07-11-11, 12:29 AM	#7
gi_dan2987 Weps Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 359 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Every ship has some amount of armored plating set to a certain depth below the waterline. Some more than others both in thickness and depth. Your fish with impact fuses need to be below that armored jacket to be truly effective. The SH4 user manual comes with all that information, and how many evenly spaced torps it should take to sink various types of ships. It is effective and usually works to specs if they're deep enough and you've got enough hits according to tonnage and type. One thing I don't agree with is a 4"/50 Cal. Deck gun taking 90 seconds to reload specifications put the test fire rate at 8-9 shells per minute, or a shot every 5-6 seconds or so. I can understand bad weather increasing that time somewhat, but if it's calm enough to man the guns, then it's calm enough to keep up with those fire rates. Sure I can see ships taking multiple hits from AP shells at the waterline and still staying above water, but it shouldn't take no 100 shells to put down a fishing trawler IMO there is some tweaking that needs to be done with these issues in RFB 1.4

05-09-07, 02:22 PM	#8
sean705 Watch Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 26 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I only go for un-escorted tankers, the one in convoys I usually leave alone. I've found the best tactic for me is to put a few fish into the tanker to slow it down (usually trying to aim for the aft end) and then surface and use HE deck gun ammo to set her ablaze

05-09-07, 11:16 PM	#12
Cap'n Crabs A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 71 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I agree with Banjo, large tankers aside, cause they are tough. But any other ship, I set my torps at 8-9 in depth and seem to have much more success than trying to set them deeper or under the keel. Shallow for the win!