Run out of gas!!! Another gripe!

zylark · 05-03-07, 06:35 PM

With fuel economising, you basically should not run out of fuel. there are recent threads explaining this.

But, I see the point. Say you have a great patrol, but get a smidge hurt in the process. You bleed fuel, and basically run out due to a leak. Now given enough time to radio for help, some sub-tender ship should be able to intercept your course and top off your fuel supply. Any ship should suffice as long as it got a fuel-hose and some diesel to spare. Especially if you are within say 20-400km of any friendly port. Beats swimming. And I'd think it would be prudent for ComSubPac to rescue both ship and crew in such vicinity to friendly ports.

CaptainHaplo · 05-03-07, 06:51 PM

Well.... I understand the concern raised... but folks, the devs gave you way more fuel than a regular fleet sub "carried". Basically - your range is way greater than historical..... but who wants to be putting at 6 knots all the way to Honshu and back?

Go lean and slow when in any kind of doubt - and you can always use the "electric cheat" - the batteries recharge even when your out of fuel....

Enjoy and Good Hunting!
Captain Haplo

AVGWarhawk · 05-03-07, 08:58 PM

I do not see the concern either. 2/3 from PH leaves plenty of fuel to make your rounds. I went from PH to Melekeok. I had just under 3/4 of a tank. Sank ships in Melekeok and exhausted all my torps. No sense going to Celebes Sea to patrol like they assigned me. I can't sink ships launching trash from my tubes

. I had plenty fuel to go to Celebes Sea. Brisbane was closer than Midway or PH. I spotted a convoy and radioed in. They said I was one stud of a Skipper and can go home when I was darn good and ready. Since I was so close to Brisbane I pulled over for fuel and checked the oil under the hood. Now that I'm in the general area of Celebes Sea, I motor on over and complete my original assigned patrol. PH return can wait for now. Men, once your over there in the thick of the battles, use the refit capabilities. Return to your assigned base when you good and ready. Lets face it, SUBCOM said come back to port at your descretion...which means....you do not have to go back now, go refit in the other ports and keep on patrolling. When your ready to collect your booty and upgrade the goodies on your sub then do so. Many a Skipper did their own thing once out there looking to sink ships. Some will say, it takes forever at 2/3. TC on over...to handle the studders while in map screen and TC, zoom in on your sub and the studders should stop for you and then you can set the TC even higher. Does not take long at all to get on station from PH.

Your crew is always ready to go out and stay out. They just look at you funny and say, 'rudder rudder'

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vindex · 05-03-07, 10:10 PM

Is there a place I can get the range indicator without implementing the whole FTT mod? I don't like some of its other features.

nattydread · 05-04-07, 01:44 AM

Its not that hard to keep from running out of gas. Travel at the same speed while in transit, I always travel at "slow"...2/3s i think it is. When you are almost had half tanks, it stime to go home, if your not sure you have enough or if you want a buffer in case of bad weather and currents slowing you down, travel at 1/3. If thats just too slow, switch speed views and pick a speed in between 1/3 and 2/3s...for my porpoise thats 9kts. By keeping a consitent transit speed to and from your patrol station you know exactly how much fuel you need because the fuel burn is the same.

Stay away from standard speed or higher until you reach your patrol area or you are chasing down a target...they just burn too much fuel.

PopManiac · 05-04-07, 03:52 AM

Many thanks for your replies and assistance to my somewhat exasperated post

; it is just that sometimes I get mad seeing good ideas existing in one game (SH3) being removed from sequel for no apparent reason.

Still, a command indicating range left to current fuel state at current speed would clarify things without compromising for realism (I am quite sure that US subs were not going blind in the Pacific following the 10 kts rule

).

I will give the FTT mod a shot, although there are things in it that do not much interest me.

nattydread · 05-04-07, 05:13 AM

Hey, slow speed gives you range, its why merchants go slow, and DDs do 15kts when they cab easily exceed 30kts. Its why fighter flew at 60% power while escorting bombers into europe.

If you want more time in your patrol area you took your time getting their.

05-03-07, 08:58 PM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,276 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I do not see the concern either. 2/3 from PH leaves plenty of fuel to make your rounds. I went from PH to Melekeok. I had just under 3/4 of a tank. Sank ships in Melekeok and exhausted all my torps. No sense going to Celebes Sea to patrol like they assigned me. I can't sink ships launching trash from my tubes . I had plenty fuel to go to Celebes Sea. Brisbane was closer than Midway or PH. I spotted a convoy and radioed in. They said I was one stud of a Skipper and can go home when I was darn good and ready. Since I was so close to Brisbane I pulled over for fuel and checked the oil under the hood. Now that I'm in the general area of Celebes Sea, I motor on over and complete my original assigned patrol. PH return can wait for now. Men, once your over there in the thick of the battles, use the refit capabilities. Return to your assigned base when you good and ready. Lets face it, SUBCOM said come back to port at your descretion...which means....you do not have to go back now, go refit in the other ports and keep on patrolling. When your ready to collect your booty and upgrade the goodies on your sub then do so. Many a Skipper did their own thing once out there looking to sink ships. Some will say, it takes forever at 2/3. TC on over...to handle the studders while in map screen and TC, zoom in on your sub and the studders should stop for you and then you can set the TC even higher. Does not take long at all to get on station from PH. Your crew is always ready to go out and stay out. They just look at you funny and say, 'rudder rudder' . __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-04-07, 03:52 AM	#6
PopManiac Watch Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 23 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Many thanks for your replies and assistance to my somewhat exasperated post ; it is just that sometimes I get mad seeing good ideas existing in one game (SH3) being removed from sequel for no apparent reason. Still, a command indicating range left to current fuel state at current speed would clarify things without compromising for realism (I am quite sure that US subs were not going blind in the Pacific following the 10 kts rule ). I will give the FTT mod a shot, although there are things in it that do not much interest me. __________________ First one in harm's way

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05-03-07, 06:35 PM	#1
zylark Loader Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 84 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	With fuel economising, you basically should not run out of fuel. there are recent threads explaining this. But, I see the point. Say you have a great patrol, but get a smidge hurt in the process. You bleed fuel, and basically run out due to a leak. Now given enough time to radio for help, some sub-tender ship should be able to intercept your course and top off your fuel supply. Any ship should suffice as long as it got a fuel-hose and some diesel to spare. Especially if you are within say 20-400km of any friendly port. Beats swimming. And I'd think it would be prudent for ComSubPac to rescue both ship and crew in such vicinity to friendly ports.

05-03-07, 06:51 PM	#2
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Well.... I understand the concern raised... but folks, the devs gave you way more fuel than a regular fleet sub "carried". Basically - your range is way greater than historical..... but who wants to be putting at 6 knots all the way to Honshu and back? Go lean and slow when in any kind of doubt - and you can always use the "electric cheat" - the batteries recharge even when your out of fuel.... Enjoy and Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

05-03-07, 10:10 PM	#4
vindex Planesman Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 192 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Is there a place I can get the range indicator without implementing the whole FTT mod? I don't like some of its other features.

05-04-07, 01:44 AM	#5
nattydread Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 498 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Its not that hard to keep from running out of gas. Travel at the same speed while in transit, I always travel at "slow"...2/3s i think it is. When you are almost had half tanks, it stime to go home, if your not sure you have enough or if you want a buffer in case of bad weather and currents slowing you down, travel at 1/3. If thats just too slow, switch speed views and pick a speed in between 1/3 and 2/3s...for my porpoise thats 9kts. By keeping a consitent transit speed to and from your patrol station you know exactly how much fuel you need because the fuel burn is the same. Stay away from standard speed or higher until you reach your patrol area or you are chasing down a target...they just burn too much fuel.

05-04-07, 05:13 AM	#7
nattydread Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 498 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Hey, slow speed gives you range, its why merchants go slow, and DDs do 15kts when they cab easily exceed 30kts. Its why fighter flew at 60% power while escorting bombers into europe. If you want more time in your patrol area you took your time getting their.