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jmjohnson36 · 04-29-07, 09:28 PM

THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

DaMaGe007 · 04-29-07, 09:37 PM

JM, Stand up for yourself and dont let them bully you. Tell them to F off, and release what you want, giving credit as you did. GWX was released free anyway, no one is making money, so they have nothing to bitch about.

04-29-07, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

jmjohnson36 · 04-29-07, 09:43 PM

Eh again...the readme HAD the credits given,... and I did not relize I had to post it everywhere Arnvart understood this...hes a good guy. AGAIN get your facts straight.

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

akdavis · 04-29-07, 09:48 PM

I don't understand. Did someone threaten to sue you? You are making a legal argument and then saying people shouldn't be offended or pissed off. I'm pretty sure this has more to do with courtesy, manners and community standards more than the law...

04-29-07, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

Eh again...the readme HAD the credits given,... and I did not relize I had to post it everywhere Arnvart understood this...hes a good guy. AGAIN get your facts straight.

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

Releasing a mod of someone else's work and not mentioning their name in the original post IS taking credit for someone else's work. A lot of people don't read the readme files. But you are right, Ubisoft is technically the owner of every mod we release. But just because something is legal doesn't mean it's curteous or right to do it.

jmjohnson36 · 04-29-07, 09:54 PM

Drifter its not my intent to flash words back and forth...I understand what your implying...and I always stated like I said..."these are not my mods" anyhow..that post is not the issue...

the issue is that GWX person got upset because I changed over some stuff into Sh4 before they could.

Now lets end this back and forth...you GWX guys did an awesome job...I always said that...but to say I cant post something is sorta strange...

I thought of others...instead of keeping stuff to myself...guess that was wrong...

jmjohnson36 · 04-29-07, 09:56 PM

Addressing my Ranger tab...and my rank is a different issue...LOL dont confuse my commitment to modding versus my ability as a soldier.

clayton · 04-29-07, 09:59 PM

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Addressing my Ranger tab...and my rank is a different issue...LOL dont confuse my commitment to modding versus my ability as a soldier.

Got it!

clayton · 04-29-07, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

Who told you to push your push to talk button?

Do not confuse excitment in releasing a modification for the community, with a lack of integrity in taking credit for it. I have no doubt that a Major in the Rangers would do the right thing. What surprises me is that a Ranger would allow such fanboys to get the better of him...

NSDQ

clayton · 04-29-07, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

Who told you to push your push to talk button?

Do not confuse excitment in releasing a modification for the community, with a lack of integrity in taking credit for it. I have no doubt that a Major in the Rangers would do the right thing. What surprises me is that a Ranger would allow such fanboys to get the better of him...

NSDQ

So we should all bow down and admit he is right because his signature says he was a US Ranger major? Not all of us here worship fascist America.

What???

Then why are you in a forum interacting on a game about a war between Japan and America?

clayton · 04-29-07, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

Who told you to push your push to talk button?

Do not confuse excitment in releasing a modification for the community, with a lack of integrity in taking credit for it. I have no doubt that a Major in the Rangers would do the right thing. What surprises me is that a Ranger would allow such fanboys to get the better of him...

NSDQ

So we should all bow down and admit he is right because his signature says he was a US Ranger major? Not all of us here worship fascist America.

What???

Then why are you in a forum interacting on a game about a war between Japan and America?

nvdrifter, did you want me to delete this post?

U-Bones · 04-29-07, 10:35 PM

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THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

Who told you to push your push to talk button?

Do not confuse excitment in releasing a modification for the community, with a lack of integrity in taking credit for it. I have no doubt that a Major in the Rangers would do the right thing. What surprises me is that a Ranger would allow such fanboys to get the better of him...

NSDQ

So we should all bow down and admit he is right because his signature says he was a US Ranger major? Not all of us here worship fascist America.

What???

Then why are you in a forum interacting on a game about a war between Japan and America?

nvdrifter, did you want me to delete this post?

Interesting that the politics of hate surface in a gaming board.

clayton · 04-29-07, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jmjohnson36

THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

Who told you to push your push to talk button?

Do not confuse excitment in releasing a modification for the community, with a lack of integrity in taking credit for it. I have no doubt that a Major in the Rangers would do the right thing. What surprises me is that a Ranger would allow such fanboys to get the better of him...

NSDQ

So we should all bow down and admit he is right because his signature says he was a US Ranger major? Not all of us here worship fascist America.

What???

Then why are you in a forum interacting on a game about a war between Japan and America?

nvdrifter, did you want me to delete this post?

If you want.

I'll delete it in 24 hours.

I have to get some sleep because in five hours I've got to get up and put on the uniform.

I will never download your work again.

04-29-07, 10:59 PM

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THATS BS---- I ALWAYS SAID thanks or mentioned to original modder AND ALWAYS Stated these were not my mods...I just changed them over...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

see this is what Im talking about...BS

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Well, as far as I remember, you were releasing mods of converted ships without even mentioning the names of the original modders who spent hours and hours making those ships. So in my opinion, you were taking credit for someone else's hard work. I feel the same way sometimes when I spend hours making a tweak file file and then another modder spends maybe 20 minutes changing a few values using the tweak file I created, releases the mod, and then doesn't even bother to mention my name, a thank you ...nothing. Everybody praises that modder, saying 'great work', 'thank you thank you', and big thumbs-up. That is total and utter BS. And you did the same thing.

No you didn't always remember to mention the original modder. You seem to have a short memory. Don't you remember your first ship conversion release for SH4? I guess not. You only mentioned the names of the original modders after they complained. You are not being truthful.

Who told you to push your push to talk button?

Do not confuse excitment in releasing a modification for the community, with a lack of integrity in taking credit for it. I have no doubt that a Major in the Rangers would do the right thing. What surprises me is that a Ranger would allow such fanboys to get the better of him...

NSDQ

So we should all bow down and admit he is right because his signature says he was a US Ranger major? Not all of us here worship fascist America.

What???

Then why are you in a forum interacting on a game about a war between Japan and America?

nvdrifter, did you want me to delete this post?

If you want.

I'll delete it in 24 hours.

I have to get some sleep because in five hours I've got to get up and put on the uniform.

I will never download your work again.

I have decided to stop releasing SH4 mods and tweak files to this community because I don't agree with a lot of the attitudes in this forum. I don't hate anybody here. Just tired of the crap.

04-29-07, 09:48 PM	#5
akdavis Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 597 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't understand. Did someone threaten to sue you? You are making a legal argument and then saying people shouldn't be offended or pissed off. I'm pretty sure this has more to do with courtesy, manners and community standards more than the law... __________________ -AKD

04-29-07, 09:54 PM	#7
jmjohnson36 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kansas City, KS Posts: 203 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	OK Drifter its not my intent to flash words back and forth...I understand what your implying...and I always stated like I said..."these are not my mods" anyhow..that post is not the issue... the issue is that GWX person got upset because I changed over some stuff into Sh4 before they could. Now lets end this back and forth...you GWX guys did an awesome job...I always said that...but to say I cant post something is sorta strange... I thought of others...instead of keeping stuff to myself...guess that was wrong... __________________ "Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud."~If I was President...Iran would have a nuke...they just wouldnt like the delivery method... <AHREF="http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=120621"_blank">JSGME Quick Reference</A> Major US ARMY RANGERS 1985-2003

04-29-07, 09:56 PM	#8
jmjohnson36 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kansas City, KS Posts: 203 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	ouch Addressing my Ranger tab...and my rank is a different issue...LOL dont confuse my commitment to modding versus my ability as a soldier. __________________ "Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud."~If I was President...Iran would have a nuke...they just wouldnt like the delivery method... <AHREF="http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=120621"_blank">JSGME Quick Reference</A> Major US ARMY RANGERS 1985-2003

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04-29-07, 09:37 PM	#2
DaMaGe007 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 338 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	JM, Stand up for yourself and dont let them bully you. Tell them to F off, and release what you want, giving credit as you did. GWX was released free anyway, no one is making money, so they have nothing to bitch about.