Attack vs Observation Periscope

dac762 · 04-20-07, 05:54 PM

Also, the Observation Scope was only available in the Control Room, and the Attack Scope was only available in the Conning Tower, on Gato subs at least.

Nightmare · 04-20-07, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dac762

Also, the Observation Scope was only available in the Control Room, and the Attack Scope was only available in the Conning Tower, on Gato subs at least.

I'm pretty sure that both scopes were located in the conning tower on the Gato class subs. There was a video tour of the USS Drum posted on here awhile back and I clearly remember both scopes up there.

When I toured the USS Pampanito 4 years ago, both scopes were up there as well. To my knowledge there isn't really a lot of difference between the Balao's and Gato's with the exception the Balao's had a thicker hull and cosmetic differences of the bridge.

perisher · 04-20-07, 06:51 PM

Both scopes are in the conning tower of the Lionfish. In British subs both scopes were in the control room. In U-boats they were split between tower and control room.

04-20-07, 09:17 PM

I read somewhere that the attack periscope was "less observable" to the enemy. Smaller profile and all that.

The observation periscope head is larger but has a larger field of view, at least in theory.

Quillan · 04-21-07, 10:00 AM

In game, the attack scope has higher magnification (6x instead of 4x, I believe). The observation scope can be tilted to look almost straight up, while the attack scope can't be tilted past about 30 degrees elevation. I think the attack scope is harder to spot, but that's hard to confirm.

Werewolf13 · 04-21-07, 10:14 AM

It would be nice if SH4 simulated that the Observation scope had a way better light gathering capability than the Attack Scope.

Should actually be fairly easy to implement. I don't believe it is now because switching back and forth between the two using O and F4 reveals no difference.

And light gathering matters: Try using a cheap rifle scope at dawn or dusk and then look thru a quality Leupold or Swarovski for example - it's like night and day. Hell you can tell the difference just comparing a $50 pair of Bushnell Binocs vs a $150 - $200 pair of Nikon Binocs.

WernerSobe · 04-21-07, 10:32 AM

to answer your question.

You can see more with observation scope but it is easier to be detected due to larger head.

Use the observation scope to look out for ships and planes before you surface. Use the attack scope during a torpedo attack.

04-20-07, 06:51 PM	#3
perisher Frogman Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: England Posts: 300 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Both scopes are in the conning tower of the Lionfish. In British subs both scopes were in the control room. In U-boats they were split between tower and control room. __________________ "Pitt was the greatest fool who ever lived to encourage a mode of war which they who commanded the seas did not want, and which, if successful, would deprive them of it." Earl St.Vincent (allegedly)

04-21-07, 10:00 AM	#5
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	In game, the attack scope has higher magnification (6x instead of 4x, I believe). The observation scope can be tilted to look almost straight up, while the attack scope can't be tilted past about 30 degrees elevation. I think the attack scope is harder to spot, but that's hard to confirm. __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

04-21-07, 10:14 AM	#6
Werewolf13 Torpedoman Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The HEART of Fly Over Country Posts: 120 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	It would be nice if SH4 simulated that the Observation scope had a way better light gathering capability than the Attack Scope. Should actually be fairly easy to implement. I don't believe it is now because switching back and forth between the two using O and F4 reveals no difference. And light gathering matters: Try using a cheap rifle scope at dawn or dusk and then look thru a quality Leupold or Swarovski for example - it's like night and day. Hell you can tell the difference just comparing a $50 pair of Bushnell Binocs vs a $150 - $200 pair of Nikon Binocs. __________________ Peace is good... Freedom is BETTER!

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04-20-07, 05:54 PM	#1
dac762 Nub Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	Also, the Observation Scope was only available in the Control Room, and the Attack Scope was only available in the Conning Tower, on Gato subs at least.

04-20-07, 09:17 PM	#4
Grunt Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I read somewhere that the attack periscope was "less observable" to the enemy. Smaller profile and all that. The observation periscope head is larger but has a larger field of view, at least in theory.

04-21-07, 10:32 AM	#7
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	to answer your question. You can see more with observation scope but it is easier to be detected due to larger head. Use the observation scope to look out for ships and planes before you surface. Use the attack scope during a torpedo attack.