That it! I hade it

I remember I saw a funny comic on Penny Arcade. Gabe paid for a game, and Tycho walks in and asks him hows it going with the new game he had waited so long for.

Gabe says something like "Yeah I installed the game". Tycho then asks "Ok, so why are you starting at a blank screen?" Gabe says "Game cant be started till the first patch is released."

I can only imagine how many people are out there, wanting to play SH4, but quietly waiting till the game gets patched into playability.

Not a good business model, so lets hope ubi learns it lesson from all this.

[bunkerratt]

The crewmates look like they smoking weed non stop - something like that.......


always with the negative waves man...

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by bunkerratt

The crewmates look like they smoking weed non stop - something like that.......


always with the negative waves man...

LMAO...:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Snowman999]

Originally Posted by Iceman

LMAO...:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

How many people under 30-YO get this joke?

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Snowman999

How many people under 30-YO get this joke?

Again with the negative waves so early in the morning...lol

for all the Beautiful people baby.

[John Channing]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Again with the negative waves so early in the morning...lol

for all the Beautiful people baby.

"Three reverse gears and one forward. That way you can get out of trouble three times as fast as you got in it!"

JCC
Not under 30

[clayman]

Originally Posted by John Channing

"Three reverse gears and one forward. That way you can get out of trouble three times as fast as you got in it!"

JCC
Not under 30

Think someone can mod my gun deck gun to fire paint rounds? :rotfl:

clayman
Not under 30 either

[Snowman999]

Again with the negative waves so early in the morning...lol

for all the Beautiful people baby.

WWII's "Kelly's Heros" hippie reminds me of all the Korean War vets who didn't get M*A*S*H (which was really about Vietnam.)

[Tobus]

Originally Posted by Grunt

I remember I saw a funny comic on Penny Arcade. Gabe paid for a game, and Tycho walks in and asks him hows it going with the new game he had waited so long for.

Gabe says something like "Yeah I installed the game". Tycho then asks "Ok, so why are you starting at a blank screen?" Gabe says "Game cant be started till the first patch is released."

I can only imagine how many people are out there, wanting to play SH4, but quietly waiting till the game gets patched into playability.

Not a good business model, so lets hope ubi learns it lesson from all this.

HearHear!

I'm getting more aggravated by the minute. I really really really want to like this game, and it looks great too! But (re)playability is low, manual is a sodding shame (mentions of snorkel depth and making solutions by W/O, none of which are in SH4 but were in SH3!).

This game is just not finished, I feel I paid for a beta-release so UBI doesn't have to pay for proper testers. And it could be soooooo good, because what DOES work in this beta is fantastic to say the least.

[McBeck]

Originally Posted by Tobus

HearHear!

I'm getting more aggravated by the minute. I really really really want to like this game, and it looks great too! But (re)playability is low, manual is a sodding shame (mentions of snorkel depth and making solutions by W/O, none of which are in SH4 but were in SH3!).

This game is just not finished, I feel I paid for a beta-release so UBI doesn't have to pay for proper testers. And it could be soooooo good, because what DOES work in this beta is fantastic to say the least.

If Ubi asked you to be a beta tester, wouldnt you accept, just to get the game a bit early, even though you wouldnt be paid?

If find lots of joy in the 1.2 version. The constant laaaaaaaag of the clipboard with the radio and orders, were driving me nuts earlier. The current version runs a lot faster!

[Tobus]

Originally Posted by McBeck

If Ubi asked you to be a beta tester, wouldnt you accept, just to get the game a bit early, even though you wouldnt be paid?

If find lots of joy in the 1.2 version. The constant laaaaaaaag of the clipboard with the radio and orders, were driving me nuts earlier. The current version runs a lot faster!

If UBI askes me to be a beta tester, I would play and test the game as such, albeit for a small fee for my time invested. Now I have paid for an unfinished product of which is claimed it is a finished product. I can fully understand a patch like 1.2 in which coding is optimized for better (faster) rendering. I do, however, not understand bringing out a game which in essence is unplayble unless the players jump through hoops in certain order and stance, just so they can get a feel of accomplishment.
To me that's not enjoying a game, to me that's aggravating and insulting to me as customer/gamer.

Now I have the feeling that SH4 was released just to set the books straight and earn some money with it already, delivering a finished product or not.
In this regard I have a love/hate relationship with UBI. They generally bring out the best games (I think), but they come out with so much technical and functional bugs...

[Grothesj2]

Funny...beta testers for online games dont get paid. If they opened it for beta to the pubic, no one should expect paid compensation.

[Tobus]

Originally Posted by Grothesj2

Funny...beta testers for online games dont get paid. If they opened it for beta to the pubic, no one should expect paid compensation.

I regard personal contact to be betatester and opening beta to the public a very large difference.

No matter how you look at it, releasing a game as complete to the customer that is not complete nor functioning as stated is plain bad. I also know that I can't win this discussion, since it is ME that makes the decision to buy the game ANYWAY, regardless of what bad stories I already read on the net.

As said, I have/had that with almost every UBI-game I own:
Far Cry, SH3, Splinter Cell DA and now SH4. All coming out flawed, but each having become great games after numerous patches (except SC: DA and SH4 till now) and modding by the loving community.

In fairness, it does cast an ugly light on these forums when loads of people moan about SHIV, but I can also fully understand why they are moaning.

I think everyone would agree that it was released too early and still has an unacceptable number of bugs a month later.

In UBI's defence, they have released two patches in that time and will most probably release one, maybe two, more to address some of the remaining issues.

I would ask then that posters refrain from venting their frustration with SHIV but please do post the problems and issues you are having with as much detail as possible such that others can try to reproduce the problem.

I would also ask the forum moderators to be a little more understanding, I accept most of you have heard all this "noise" before but a lot of new people are finding their way to these forums and they will naturally need time to adapt to this forum's maturity. Lets not scare them away too soon...because the bigger the subsim community becomes the greater the chance of sub sim games being developed for us.

And finally, I would ask UBI to refine their game production processes as no one should have to suffer a product with as many flaws as SHIV had when it was released. Its was actually quite scandalous.

Right, i'm off to pub, anyone for a pint ?