Who is working on campaign layers?

Egan · 04-06-07, 07:19 AM

OK Jace.

I've got something in the works.

I'm about to start on a new Ops-Mod for Sh4 but I'm just getting stuff together for it at the mo. There is a lot of stuff I'm interested in doing to improve the campaign.

If your interested, send us a PM. I'm

Stuart Galbraith · 04-06-07, 07:55 AM

Is anyone interested in me working on the Japanese coastal defences overlay? Ive managed to find a postwar USN evaluation of those defences (complete with mine locations) and it may be possible to improve the default ones already listed.

Egan · 04-06-07, 08:18 AM

Send me a Pm, Stuart. I'm looking to get together a team.

bunkerratt · 04-06-07, 08:32 AM

you may want to check this out ....

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthread...=1#Post2177412

Egan · 04-06-07, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunkerratt

you may want to check this out ....

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthread...=1#Post2177412

Boy, he's talking about payware already....even quicker than last time...

Jace11 · 04-06-07, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunkerratt

you may want to check this out ....

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthread...=1#Post2177412

Yeah, thats Reg.. partner of X1. It is his job. He will release little tasters to the community, get you to beta test them for him, then he'll line his pockets by publishing an "addon" through X1 and you will have to pay...

Most people here will be doing it for free...

Infact I bet he trawls these boards for new ideas, so maybe I should keep mine to myself until we get a private forum (maybe Beery or someone should speak to Neal about a private mod forum?)

Yup, Egan I'm up for helping out.

Ducimus · 04-06-07, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace11

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunkerratt

you may want to check this out ....

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthread...=1#Post2177412

Yeah, thats Reg.. partner of X1. It is his job. He will release little tasters to the community, get you to beta test them for him, then he'll line his pockets by publishing an "addon" through X1 and you will have to pay...

Most people here will be doing it for free...

Infact I bet he trawls these boards for new ideas, so maybe I should keep mine to myself until we get a private forum (maybe Beery or someone should speak to Neal about a private mod forum?)

Yup, Egan I'm up for helping out.

UGH.

*sigh*.

i guess we'll all acutally have to put our name and a disclaimer in the readme of anything we do. I'ev been avoiding that, but the idea of this guy just taking up work and making money off of it is a major pisser.

Jams79 · 04-06-07, 11:48 AM

My girlfriend just pointed out that you could stick a general disclaimer in your sig box

"Any ideas in this post etc..."

sergbuto · 04-06-07, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunkerratt

you may want to check this out ....

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthread...=1#Post2177412

I see that Combatplanes have started to work on another Seawolves-like project and probably on consequent rip-off of modders to sell stuff, this time for SH4.

That is how it was for SH3. They started with working on the game campaign as part of the World mod and then went to sell free mods made by the community along with it.

EDIT: Egan and Jace11 were quick to notice that while I was typing my post.

Yes, it seems private forums are the best way to go in this case.

bunkerratt · 04-06-07, 09:57 AM

ok ..that being brought to light...i'm removing it now....i didn't know that ...tyvm...no no no ...out dam x1 in disguise...

Egan · 04-06-07, 10:05 AM

Quote:

EDIT: Egan and Jace11 were quick to notice that while I was typing my post.

Yes, it seems private forums are the best way to go in this case.

Put it this way mate, I'm far, far more paranoid this time around. Thing is, it didn't used to be like this on the subsim scene.

@Bunkerratt: Don't worry about it, Bud, it can be tricky keeping up with all of that guys aliases.

bigboywooly · 04-06-07, 10:16 AM

I suppose to be fair he has offered the ships made so far for free

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthread...=1#Post2173218

Which isnt what happened last time around

You will still probably be better getting a private forum though
If you cant get one off Neal there are plenty of free ones out there that will do for your needs

Sailor Steve · 04-06-07, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Egan

I'm far, far more paranoid this time around. Thing is, it didn't used to be like this on the subsim scene.

If they're really out to get you, you're not paranoid, you're smart.

Jace11 · 04-06-07, 08:41 AM

I think I am going to concentrate on ship layers first.

With all the layers, it looks very daunting... and a lot of work...

Having looked at the layers I notice all the convoys in a layer have the same start time and end time. And contain convoys from previous layers.

For example all convoys in 41a (except those starting from Manila) start at the same times and end at the same time. These appear to be copied into the next layer.. but with dates changed for 42a

This could provide a systematic way of incrementally building each layer quickly. Once 41a is edited, you can copy that into 42a then edit the extra convoys that have been added, then use that in 42b, 43a etc....

Additionally, I am checking waypoints and whether these will cause the convoy to cross land... eg a radius zone around a waypoint can cause a convoy to run aground as the convoy can arrive in that zone at any point and then proceeds to the next WP, while a direct line from the center of the zone may be open sea, from the tangent of the zone to the next WP, there is sometimes land, I have found a few of these already..

Checking formation columns, eg no point have 4 columns if there are only 5 or 6 ships in the convoy, better to have 3 columns for the smaller convoys..?

Currently on 41a convoys... a long way to go...

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04-06-07, 07:19 AM	#1
Egan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	OK Jace. I've got something in the works. I'm about to start on a new Ops-Mod for Sh4 but I'm just getting stuff together for it at the mo. There is a lot of stuff I'm interested in doing to improve the campaign. If your interested, send us a PM. I'm

04-06-07, 07:55 AM	#2
Stuart Galbraith Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 17 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Is anyone interested in me working on the Japanese coastal defences overlay? Ive managed to find a postwar USN evaluation of those defences (complete with mine locations) and it may be possible to improve the default ones already listed.

04-06-07, 08:18 AM	#3
Egan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Send me a Pm, Stuart. I'm looking to get together a team.

04-06-07, 08:32 AM	#4
bunkerratt Chief Join Date: May 2006 Location: madison wisconsin Posts: 310 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	you may want to check this out .... http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthread...=1#Post2177412

04-06-07, 11:48 AM	#8
Jams79 Sailor man Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Guildford UK Posts: 45 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	My girlfriend just pointed out that you could stick a general disclaimer in your sig box "Any ideas in this post etc..."

04-06-07, 09:57 AM	#10
bunkerratt Chief Join Date: May 2006 Location: madison wisconsin Posts: 310 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	ok ..that being brought to light...i'm removing it now....i didn't know that ...tyvm...no no no ...out dam x1 in disguise...

04-06-07, 08:41 AM	#14
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	I think I am going to concentrate on ship layers first. With all the layers, it looks very daunting... and a lot of work... Having looked at the layers I notice all the convoys in a layer have the same start time and end time. And contain convoys from previous layers. For example all convoys in 41a (except those starting from Manila) start at the same times and end at the same time. These appear to be copied into the next layer.. but with dates changed for 42a This could provide a systematic way of incrementally building each layer quickly. Once 41a is edited, you can copy that into 42a then edit the extra convoys that have been added, then use that in 42b, 43a etc.... Additionally, I am checking waypoints and whether these will cause the convoy to cross land... eg a radius zone around a waypoint can cause a convoy to run aground as the convoy can arrive in that zone at any point and then proceeds to the next WP, while a direct line from the center of the zone may be open sea, from the tangent of the zone to the next WP, there is sometimes land, I have found a few of these already.. Checking formation columns, eg no point have 4 columns if there are only 5 or 6 ships in the convoy, better to have 3 columns for the smaller convoys..? Currently on 41a convoys... a long way to go...