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Old 03-30-07, 11:36 AM   #1
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That's another question I had. Stock GWX, what video is that playing on the main menu? Is that Das Boot? Because there is also the mod you can add in that says something about a Das Boot video. Are they both from Das Boot?

But yeah, actually I plan on getting a copy of Das Boot to watch. I hear the version on DVD is 3 1/2 hours. Sounds good to me
From what I understand, what we are seeing there is actual war footage in that little screen on the right side of the menu.

Stock SHIII plays in-game footage.
GWX plays actual war footage.
GWX w/ the Das Boot mod enabled and you get Das Boot footage.
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Old 03-30-07, 12:05 PM   #2
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Yes, it was manned and with safety straps. The straps did not always hold. Hardegan transversed the Atlantic during operation drumbeat. He submerged for 55 miles of it. The rest was surfaced with men on the watch no matter the weather. He did have bad weather with waves coming over the tower.
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Not being able to use the deck gun in bad weather makes sense. What I want is to be able to use the flak guns even of conditions are a litte rough. I would imagine they were used in actuality in such conditions. I have certainly had a use for them when passing through shallow waters and not being able to dive.
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Old 03-30-07, 12:30 PM   #4
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In October 41 U 106 (IXB) was sailing at full speed toward Convoy Outbound North 28 when a gale suddenly struck the boat in a following sea. A giant wave from astern 'pooped' the bridge, washing all four men on topside watch into the sea. The U 106 sailed blindly for nearly an hour before the mishap was discovered by the relieving watch crew.
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See, that is why I LOVE this board. You guys (or gals) know so much fascinating stuff. I'm a bit of a history buff, especially war history so this is really cool to ask and find out. That's crazy those guys would suffer through such conditions in reality. I can't imagine how cold and miserable that was.

So the stock GWX is actual war footage? That's VERY cool. Anyone care to comment where that was found? Actual footage like that really interests me.

Definitely going to check out Das Boot too.

Go get "Operation Drumbeat" excellent read!!! I got a copy off Amazon for $9.00. Amongst other great books on the boats!

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Old 03-30-07, 09:42 PM   #7
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In October 41 U 106 (IXB) was sailing at full speed toward Convoy Outbound North 28 when a gale suddenly struck the boat in a following sea. A giant wave from astern 'pooped' the bridge, washing all four men on topside watch into the sea. The U 106 sailed blindly for nearly an hour before the mishap was discovered by the relieving watch crew.
I'm curious to know how they knew how long it was they'd been sailing blind if it was discovered an hour later...
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In October 41 U 106 (IXB) was sailing at full speed toward Convoy Outbound North 28 when a gale suddenly struck the boat in a following sea. A giant wave from astern 'pooped' the bridge, washing all four men on topside watch into the sea. The U 106 sailed blindly for nearly an hour before the mishap was discovered by the relieving watch crew.
I'm curious to know how they knew how long it was they'd been sailing blind if it was discovered an hour later...
Perhaps they guaged it based on the last time they knew the crew was there.
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In October 41 U 106 (IXB) was sailing at full speed toward Convoy Outbound North 28 when a gale suddenly struck the boat in a following sea. A giant wave from astern 'pooped' the bridge, washing all four men on topside watch into the sea. The U 106 sailed blindly for nearly an hour before the mishap was discovered by the relieving watch crew.
I'm curious to know how they knew how long it was they'd been sailing blind if it was discovered an hour later...
Perhaps they guaged it based on the last time they knew the crew was there.
The source doesn't say (Clay Blair....Hitler's U-Boat War....The Hunters, 1939-1942 page 373) But I can only presume that watches were changed far more regularly in foul/dangerous weather or perhaps there was a log report to pinpoint the last message sent from or to the bridge. :hmm:
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In October 41 U 106 (IXB) was sailing at full speed toward Convoy Outbound North 28 when a gale suddenly struck the boat in a following sea. A giant wave from astern 'pooped' the bridge, washing all four men on topside watch into the sea. The U 106 sailed blindly for nearly an hour before the mishap was discovered by the relieving watch crew.
I'm guessing those poor crewmen were never found?
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In October 41 U 106 (IXB) was sailing at full speed toward Convoy Outbound North 28 when a gale suddenly struck the boat in a following sea. A giant wave from astern 'pooped' the bridge, washing all four men on topside watch into the sea. The U 106 sailed blindly for nearly an hour before the mishap was discovered by the relieving watch crew.
I'm guessing those poor crewmen were never found?
The kaleun Hermann Rasch rerversed course and mounted a search but they were never found The consequence of this mishap was that Rasch had to stand bridge watches in place of the lost watch officer, imposing a tremendous strain on himself.
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In October 41 U 106 (IXB) was sailing at full speed toward Convoy Outbound North 28 when a gale suddenly struck the boat in a following sea. A giant wave from astern 'pooped' the bridge, washing all four men on topside watch into the sea. The U 106 sailed blindly for nearly an hour before the mishap was discovered by the relieving watch crew.
23 Oct, 1941
An incredibly sad event befell U-106 on this date. When the replacement watch opened the tower hatch in rough seas they found out that the entire previous tower watch of 4 men had been washed overboard. [Oberleutnant zur See Werner Grüneberg, Fähnrich zur See Herbert von Bruchhausen, Oberbootsmannmaat Karl Heemann, Matrose Ewald Brühl]

Lots of men lost overboard from Uboats

U-43, 31 Mar, 1940
U-43 lost a man overboard in the Atlantic. [I WO Oberleutnant zur See Hans-Wilhelm Behrens]

U-47, 5 Sep, 1940
The boat lost a man overboard during use of the deck gun. [MtrOGfr Heinrich Mantyk]

U-46, 27 Sep, 1940
The boat lost two men during an unintentional dive.[Oberbootsmaat Heinrich Schenk, Matrosenobergefreiter Wilhelm Reh]

U-97, 3 Mar, 1941
The boat lost 1 man overboard in the Bay of Biscay. [Bootsmaat Artur Mei]
U-110, 23 Mar, 1941
U-110´s 105mm deck gun exploded during firing wounding 3 men.
U-105, 5 May, 1941
The 105mm gun exploded during firing wounding 6 men.
U-93, 7 May, 1941
3 men were wounded on the U-93 in an accident with the machine-gun.
U-101, 4 Jun, 1941
The boat lost a man, Matrosenobergefreiter Horst Jackl, overboard.
U-205, 30 Sep, 1941
The boat suffered a blow when one of its men, Fähnrich zur See Fritz Säger, took his own life.

U-701, 31 Dec, 1941
An officer was washed overboard from the U-701, being the last casualty of the year. [Leutnant zur See Bernhard Weinitschke]

U-585, 5 Feb, 1942
The 21 year old Fähnrich zur See Eberhardt Vollmer (Crew 1940) was lost overboard in the south Barents Sea.

U-156, 16 Feb, 1942
U-156 began to shell the oil refinery at Aruba in the Caribbean, but the gun crew forgot to remove the water plug from the barrel, causing an explosion that killed one man [Matrosengefreiter Heinrich Büssinger]. The gunnery officer [II WO Leutnant zur See Dietrich von dem Borne] lost his right leg in this incident, and so had to be put ashore into captivity at Martinique on 21 February. The commander decided to saw off the ruined portion of the gun barrel, and using this shorter barrel, on 27 February U-156 sank a 2,498-ton British steamer.

U-454, 26 Feb, 1942
Two days after leaving Trondheim, Norway U-454 lost Matrosengefreiter Josef Kauer overboard.

+ many more http://uboat.net/men/men_lost.htm
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