Not sure about this......bug or not? (NOT, FIXED)

uniquemind · 03-29-07, 07:13 AM

Hi GakunGak,

I will try that thank you, however, I tried this morning and played the artillery training and the sky was certainly better than that screenshot, and it also was fine in my career, I find that most odd, last night that and this morning ok.

Only one thing I can think of that maybe caused that although why it should is beyond me, but I have been minimizing the game so that I could come here to post if anything was amiss/bug etc...... in the game and after having posted or whatever I went back into the game and thats when I looked up to take a plane out and saw that weird sky.

Maybe I am in the wrong ball park here, but I'll have a go at your suggestion and post back either way if its better or not

Many thanks

UM

uniquemind · 03-29-07, 10:21 AM

Please excuse double post but here is a better sky, I only altered 1 option within my control panel for the graphics card:

Enable Geometry instancing = checked (not sure if that was responsible but everything else stayed the same before I posted this thread

These are the Catalyst 7.3's don't think they have been out for long, was using much older drivers before, but that was a case of having too as other problems arose using the 7.2's

Thanks for your help GakunGak

Uniquemind

03-29-07, 10:59 AM

Glad you did it!!!

But beware, until at least 5 patches, I do not recommend ALT+TAB of the game, for stability measures...
Take care,
GakunGak!

And as always, me being a smug!

uniquemind · 03-29-07, 12:19 PM

Thanks,

No I don't use Alt-Tab, I am able to use the Windows key to minimize the game, but I'm going to stop doing that too, just incase it causes adverse effects

Cheers

Uniquemind

03-29-07, 01:23 PM

Win key or alt tab is the same effect....

And yeah, you are advised that next time when posting links from imageshack.us that you use "Thumbnail for forums" code, so that the page is not stretched out wide...

Good hunting, skip!

And me, always being a smug!

uniquemind · 03-29-07, 02:48 PM

Hi GakunGak,

Sorry but I was not aware that my screenshots are stretching out wide, I was using links to Photbucket...............sorry if this happens from there too

As for the problem, I'm sorry also to report that its back loud and horribly clear, (worried to put a screenshot incase it comes out as stretched)

I was playing fine and then went into the nav map view and set the tc to 64, sometimes higher and sometimes lower, I then reached where I was meant to be only to find when on the bridge that the sky was the same as seen in screenshot 1.

I'm feeling so dejected and frustrated by all the problems, and not just mine, I feel everyones pain

Uniquemind

Ark · 03-29-07, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GakunGak

Glad you did it!!!

But beware, until at least 5 patches, I do not recommend ALT+TAB of the game, for stability measures...
Take care,
GakunGak!

And as always, me being a smug!

I ALT-TAB out of the game all of the time. No issues here.

I wonder if that is an ATI issue with the game?

XanderF · 03-29-07, 02:59 PM

That looks like the mipmap detail is set too low. I don't have that on mine, either, and I *do* have an ATI card.

Make sure the Mipmap setting is "High Quality". I don't recall a "Geometry instancing" option, though - you are running ATI's stock CCC, right? Not the Omega drivers or anything? If so, you want to use the standard driver - Omega's are quite buggy in this manner. I suppose for 'popular' games they are fine, but they introduced BUCKETS of glitches like this in niche titles.

uniquemind · 03-29-07, 03:02 PM

I do have Mipmap detail set to high quality, I've got an ATI X800 Pro 256MB and the latest 7.3 drivers

I can't make it out at all, at a loss as to what to do

uniquemind · 03-29-07, 03:11 PM

Oh dear I am in big bother now as I did try the Omega drivers and although I cleared out my last sets I tried with Driver Cleaner Pro, in my add remove programs there are 2 entries that say:

Radeon Omega Drivers v3.8.252 Setup Files and Tools
Radeon Omega Drivers v3.8.330 Setup Files and Tools

When I try to remove them I get:

Invalid uninstal control file: C:\Program Files\Radeon Omega Drivers\version 3.8.252\Omega Uninstal.xml

And then this error comes up for the second one aswell......I guess this might be causing problems with my 7.3's

What have I done and how to get rid of the damn things!!

Linavitch · 03-29-07, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ark

I ALT-TAB out of the game all of the time. No issues here.

I wonder if that is an ATI issue with the game?

No issues ALT-Tab for me with ATI card.

McBeck · 03-30-07, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linavitch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ark

I ALT-TAB out of the game all of the time. No issues here.

I wonder if that is an ATI issue with the game?

No issues ALT-Tab for me with ATI card.

Me neither

uniquemind · 03-30-07, 08:34 AM

I hate to have to say this I really do but this just has to be a glitch or whatever as last night it was back again, fine when playing x1 tc but I went to the nav map and set it to 256 and after awhile went back to bridge view and guess what? yep it had returned.

I usually refrain from ranting on forums as I don't look forward to the responses, but I have to on this occassion as this is simply ridiculous, how can a game have so much wrong with it, get patched and then become a damn site worse!

I know the answer of course but I just cannot hold back any longer.......my other games are fine and they require quite a bit more than my hardware allows and yet the system copes admirably.........but this is taking the..........I won't swear.

I had major problems with SH3 when it first came out and know that this will get sorted, but for gods sake, this is so poor......I admire the developers for creating such amazing games......but as for the publishers? damn it......cut the developers a bit of slack why don't you!

We buy games to play, not put away and spend half our time posting about bugs on forums.........

Rant over on my part.........sorry people but I've quite frankly had enough......I shall continue to play it and suffer the problems until they get fixed.........and for those who have no problems, I am happy that you don't have to suffer like the ones who do.

Please don't flame me for my opinion as sometimes I may come accross as sounding not very nice, but nothing personal is meant

03-29-07, 02:59 PM	#8
XanderF Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 554 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	That looks like the mipmap detail is set too low. I don't have that on mine, either, and I do have an ATI card. Make sure the Mipmap setting is "High Quality". I don't recall a "Geometry instancing" option, though - you are running ATI's stock CCC, right? Not the Omega drivers or anything? If so, you want to use the standard driver - Omega's are quite buggy in this manner. I suppose for 'popular' games they are fine, but they introduced BUCKETS of glitches like this in niche titles. __________________

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03-29-07, 07:13 AM	#1
uniquemind Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 86 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi GakunGak, I will try that thank you, however, I tried this morning and played the artillery training and the sky was certainly better than that screenshot, and it also was fine in my career, I find that most odd, last night that and this morning ok. Only one thing I can think of that maybe caused that although why it should is beyond me, but I have been minimizing the game so that I could come here to post if anything was amiss/bug etc...... in the game and after having posted or whatever I went back into the game and thats when I looked up to take a plane out and saw that weird sky. Maybe I am in the wrong ball park here, but I'll have a go at your suggestion and post back either way if its better or not Many thanks UM

03-29-07, 10:21 AM	#2
uniquemind Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 86 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Please excuse double post but here is a better sky, I only altered 1 option within my control panel for the graphics card: Enable Geometry instancing = checked (not sure if that was responsible but everything else stayed the same before I posted this thread These are the Catalyst 7.3's don't think they have been out for long, was using much older drivers before, but that was a case of having too as other problems arose using the 7.2's Thanks for your help GakunGak Uniquemind

03-29-07, 10:59 AM	#3
GakunGak Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Glad you did it!!! But beware, until at least 5 patches, I do not recommend ALT+TAB of the game, for stability measures... Take care, GakunGak! And as always, me being a smug!

03-29-07, 12:19 PM	#4
uniquemind Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 86 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks, No I don't use Alt-Tab, I am able to use the Windows key to minimize the game, but I'm going to stop doing that too, just incase it causes adverse effects Cheers Uniquemind

03-29-07, 01:23 PM	#5
GakunGak Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Win key or alt tab is the same effect.... And yeah, you are advised that next time when posting links from imageshack.us that you use "Thumbnail for forums" code, so that the page is not stretched out wide... Good hunting, skip! And me, always being a smug!

03-29-07, 02:48 PM	#6
uniquemind Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 86 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi GakunGak, Sorry but I was not aware that my screenshots are stretching out wide, I was using links to Photbucket...............sorry if this happens from there too As for the problem, I'm sorry also to report that its back loud and horribly clear, (worried to put a screenshot incase it comes out as stretched) I was playing fine and then went into the nav map view and set the tc to 64, sometimes higher and sometimes lower, I then reached where I was meant to be only to find when on the bridge that the sky was the same as seen in screenshot 1. I'm feeling so dejected and frustrated by all the problems, and not just mine, I feel everyones pain Uniquemind

03-29-07, 03:02 PM	#9
uniquemind Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 86 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I do have Mipmap detail set to high quality, I've got an ATI X800 Pro 256MB and the latest 7.3 drivers I can't make it out at all, at a loss as to what to do

03-29-07, 03:11 PM	#10
uniquemind Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 86 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Oh dear I am in big bother now as I did try the Omega drivers and although I cleared out my last sets I tried with Driver Cleaner Pro, in my add remove programs there are 2 entries that say: Radeon Omega Drivers v3.8.252 Setup Files and Tools Radeon Omega Drivers v3.8.330 Setup Files and Tools When I try to remove them I get: Invalid uninstal control file: C:\Program Files\Radeon Omega Drivers\version 3.8.252\Omega Uninstal.xml And then this error comes up for the second one aswell......I guess this might be causing problems with my 7.3's What have I done and how to get rid of the damn things!!

03-30-07, 08:34 AM	#13
uniquemind Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 86 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I hate to have to say this I really do but this just has to be a glitch or whatever as last night it was back again, fine when playing x1 tc but I went to the nav map and set it to 256 and after awhile went back to bridge view and guess what? yep it had returned. I usually refrain from ranting on forums as I don't look forward to the responses, but I have to on this occassion as this is simply ridiculous, how can a game have so much wrong with it, get patched and then become a damn site worse! I know the answer of course but I just cannot hold back any longer.......my other games are fine and they require quite a bit more than my hardware allows and yet the system copes admirably.........but this is taking the..........I won't swear. I had major problems with SH3 when it first came out and know that this will get sorted, but for gods sake, this is so poor......I admire the developers for creating such amazing games......but as for the publishers? damn it......cut the developers a bit of slack why don't you! We buy games to play, not put away and spend half our time posting about bugs on forums......... Rant over on my part.........sorry people but I've quite frankly had enough......I shall continue to play it and suffer the problems until they get fixed.........and for those who have no problems, I am happy that you don't have to suffer like the ones who do. Please don't flame me for my opinion as sometimes I may come accross as sounding not very nice, but nothing personal is meant