Take profits from the oil compnaies to fund a reserve?

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Skybird

This constant phobia of mis-defined conceptions of what "socialism" is start to become a bit annoying. Not to mention that "social" and "socialistic" constantly get mixed up, too.

If you aren't Republican you are a socialist or communist! Ask any Republican.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

If you aren't Republican you are a socialist or communist! Ask any Republican.

That sounds logical to me!

Can't help but to link this (German) essay on comparing the EU and the US and how differently the EU is perceived by the three major opinion camps in the US:

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,473460,00.html

Possible that the text maybe will be translated into English for the international edition of Der Spiegel in one or two weeks - who knows.

[tycho102]

She's interested in political power and job security, just like every other politician. Every govenment project and agency that is formed gives her and her buddies some kind of direct control.

If Hillbilly is going to communistize money from the oil companies, I'd rather see it go straight into nuclear power plants and core reprocessing factories. Tax the oil companies, sure, but use the taxes for to the benefit of Americans -- instead of using it to garner kickbacks which she subsequently hides in an offshore shell-corporation.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

If you aren't Republican you are a socialist or communist! Ask any Republican.

Incorrect. THere is a clear difference between democrat and socialism/communism. I don't agree with everything the republicans do, whicyh is why I like Democrats around to offset that balance. However, more and more democrats are having Communistic views and that troubles me deeply, so much so now, that I think I will never vote democrat again.

If you study the last few major elections, you will notice more Republicans coming out of the woodwork. They largly ignored the last Senate races, but for President, I think you will see quite a few popping up again. I am not the only one feeling this way.

Right now, I think there is a world wide Communist agenda, and we are all slowly sucoming to it. In a country that was founded on less government control, you are seeing more and more government intervention than ever too. Your rights as a citizen are slowly erroding as well. Soon, you will even have international courts deciding on your fate as well, instead of being judged at home by your peers.

Things are getting ugly.

-S

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

If you aren't Republican you are a socialist or communist! Ask any Republican.

Yeah, and if you're not a Democrat you're a redneck...

I don't see the point in looking at this through a "is it Socialist/Communist?" filter, it makes no sense. Is it a good idea? I say yes, given that it's running out.
If it happens to be a socialist idea, so be it. Who gives a crap if a good idea belongs to a disagreeable school of thought? Take the idea, and f*ck the ideology.

I don't know if this has been pointed out but the US (and every major industrial nation) has a strategic oil reserve. Much of the current cost and shortages, when they occur, has to do with the lack of refinery capacity. Be the lack of capacity be due to different fuel blends or lack of refinery construction it is not the fault, nor is it the resposibility of any oil company to compensate for political decisions.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by waste gate

I don't know if this has been pointed out but the US (and every major industrial nation) has a strategic oil reserve. Much of the current cost and shortages, when they occur, has to do with the lack of refinery capacity. Be the lack of capacity be due to different fuel blends or lack of refinery construction it is not the fault, nor is it the resposibility of any oil company to compensate for political decisions.

You can't say that when the worlds economy is driven by oil. Like it or not oil is politics.
It cost's fifteen billion dollars and something like twelve years to make a refinery. Why would oil companies build a refinery when the way things are they get the most money by keeping the capacity they have and plead supply and demand.

Originally Posted by bradclark1

You can't say that when the worlds economy is driven by oil. Like it or not oil is politics.
It cost's fifteen billion dollars and something like twelve years to make a refinery. Why would oil companies build a refinery when the way things are they get the most money by keeping the capacity they have and plead supply and demand.

I think, although I don't know for sure, you forget about the enviromentalists who have dictated the current situation, and want to do so in the future.
My feeling is that you can blame the enviromentalists and warming alarmists for much of the cost increases.

Oil Companies are much too conservative to bring on internal changes. If you think you are paying too much or that there is a shortage of oil blame the politicians.
Oil companies move based on profit. Fifteen billion dollars would be two billion if it were not for the 'not in my neighborhood croud and the 'enviromentalist' occupied EPA.