A look at SH4 1.01

GT182 · 03-22-07, 07:16 PM

Great read ParaB.

But, it seems Bernard has shown his ugly puss in SH4 too. Or is it the "Game Gremlin"? :rotfl:

geetrue · 03-22-07, 07:31 PM

Good post ParaB ...

What did you have for dinner?

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Originally Posted by ParaB

There I decided to call it a day and make dinner.

ParaB · 03-22-07, 07:35 PM

A small update:

During my 2nd patrol I encountered a japanese task force heading for the Philipines, a large group of Destroyers, guarding... 8 troop transports!

I sneaked through the DD screen and hit a large passenger ship with 2 torps, and missed another one.

Watch that BEAUTIFUL smoke...

Then the DDs came to play and I had to evade and go deep. After a while they's lost me and I went after the crippled ship again. I was really happy since until then my torpedoes seemed jinxed, cursed and unmotivated. So I lined up a perfect shot, 700 yards, and let go... and waited... and waited... and WOAHHH!!! Explosion! A torpedo hit! WHAAAAT???!

Yup. My torpedo circled and hit my own boat.

I had observed weird torpedo behaviour earlier, but I blamed myself for screwing up something about the manual targetting. But now I know: the US eels do NOT only suck on a stellar level, no, they're even dangerous to my own boat!

As my boat sank deeper and deeper into the blackness of the sea I thought "Well, at least I sunk something with a torpedo this time."

Quote:

What did you have for dinner?

Sushi.

fullmetaledges · 03-22-07, 07:43 PM

you ever read the book "shadow divers" these wreck divers found a U boat off of the east coast of new jersey and the conclusion they came to was that the reason it sank was one it's torpedoes circled around and hit the conning tower. you must of had the same luck as they did.

Sgian Dubh · 03-22-07, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ParaB

Yup. My torpedo circled and hit my own boat.

So I find this a bit of a problem. In Thunder Below the onboard sonar always tracked the torpedoes an alerted the captain if a torpedo was erratic or circling.

Seems like that would be nice to know. Otherwise, you have to assume one is circling everytime you shoot and then evade.

Deep-Six · 03-22-07, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParaB

A small update:

During my 2nd patrol I encountered a japanese task force heading for the Philipines, a large group of Destroyers, guarding... 8 troop transports!

I sneaked through the DD screen and hit a large passenger ship with 2 torps, and missed another one.

Watch that BEAUTIFUL smoke...

Then the DDs came to play and I had to evade and go deep. After a while they's lost me and I went after the crippled ship again. I was really happy since until then my torpedoes seemed jinxed, cursed and unmotivated. So I lined up a perfect shot, 700 yards, and let go... and waited... and waited... and WOAHHH!!! Explosion! A torpedo hit! WHAAAAT???!

Yup. My torpedo circled and hit my own boat.

I had observed weird torpedo behaviour earlier, but I blamed myself for screwing up something about the manual targetting. But now I know: the US eels do NOT only suck on a stellar level, no, they're even dangerous to my own boat!

As my boat sank deeper and deeper into the blackness of the sea I thought "Well, at least I sunk something with a torpedo this time."

Quote:

What did you have for dinner?

Sushi.

After firing a torp alway dive.

fullmetaledges · 03-22-07, 11:03 PM

hey that 'S' light between the fwd and aft tubes in that screenshot what is that for

bookworm_020 · 03-22-07, 11:29 PM

The U.S.S. Tang and Tullibee suffered the same fate from circular running torpedoes. It's possible others may have suffered the same fate, but with no suvivors, it can't be confirmed.

There were cases of subs having nears misses due to torpedos comeing back at them.

This also happend to surface ships as well.

ParaB · 03-22-07, 11:59 PM

Hehe... during the latest torpedo training I actually managed to get hit by two of my own torpedoes out of a salvo of four. A 50% hit rate is more than I manage on enemy ships right now, so I count it as some kind of success.

I knew that this happened in WW2 but the frequency that it happens with my fishes ( roughly 25%) is a bit distracting.

I'd really appreciate if my sonar man would tell me something like "torpedo's running straight" or something like that. But he rarely talks to me these days.

Anyway, just mentioning that I'm recently getting a bit nervous after launching my torpedoes...

@ fullmetaledges: I have no idea, sorry.

fidget · 03-23-07, 12:21 AM

Then I suddenly get attacked by aircraft. I decide to test the lethality of aircraft attacks and...do nothing. Result: no damage. I wait and after half an hour two more aircraft appear, both bombing me TWICE, then attacking with MGs. Result: no damage. I now decide to sail down the japanese coast. I get attacked about a dozen times and recieve absolutely ZERO damage. Now this isn't some minor problem anymore, this is ridiculous. No defensive fire, no evasive maneuvers. Those japanese aviators couldn't hit a barn if they were standing on one.

Ok, well, I tried that too. At first, my boat took no damage, so I just ignored the planes. I was approaching Hiroshima at this point and was repeatedly being attacked, but, like you, not getting any damage. Then, along came one plane (I'm now assuming it was some kind of Japanese ASW plane) and it just blew my boat to pieces...so, it seems that the damage depends a lot on what kind of planes attack you.

Lawndart · 03-23-07, 12:25 AM

I too miss salvoes and the weather reports. But I read somewhere that the weather reprots still work but you have to map the key in your config file.

I also miss the additional commands when you click on a ship mate. It was pretty imersive to navigate the boat and talk with the crew, even if it was really simple.

Oh, and I REALLY miss the crew, reloading, repair screens, and hot bottons for the type of mode you are in like serfice attack, etc. I know they have a new system, I just wish they kept the old visual reprosentation... Something about seeing a cut away of the ship made it just feel more real, and worth looking at. Easy mod I suppose.

Funny but I've been bombed to hell by planes... I take them very seriously...

03-22-07, 07:16 PM	#1
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	Great read ParaB. But, it seems Bernard has shown his ugly puss in SH4 too. Or is it the "Game Gremlin"? :rotfl: __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

03-22-07, 11:29 PM	#8
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	The U.S.S. Tang and Tullibee suffered the same fate from circular running torpedoes. It's possible others may have suffered the same fate, but with no suvivors, it can't be confirmed. There were cases of subs having nears misses due to torpedos comeing back at them. This also happend to surface ships as well. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

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03-22-07, 07:43 PM	#4
fullmetaledges Chief Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 314 Downloads: 120 Uploads: 0	you ever read the book "shadow divers" these wreck divers found a U boat off of the east coast of new jersey and the conclusion they came to was that the reason it sank was one it's torpedoes circled around and hit the conning tower. you must of had the same luck as they did.

03-22-07, 11:03 PM	#7
fullmetaledges Chief Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 314 Downloads: 120 Uploads: 0	hey that 'S' light between the fwd and aft tubes in that screenshot what is that for

03-22-07, 11:59 PM	#9
ParaB Chief Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 327 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Hehe... during the latest torpedo training I actually managed to get hit by two of my own torpedoes out of a salvo of four. A 50% hit rate is more than I manage on enemy ships right now, so I count it as some kind of success. I knew that this happened in WW2 but the frequency that it happens with my fishes ( roughly 25%) is a bit distracting. I'd really appreciate if my sonar man would tell me something like "torpedo's running straight" or something like that. But he rarely talks to me these days. Anyway, just mentioning that I'm recently getting a bit nervous after launching my torpedoes... @ fullmetaledges: I have no idea, sorry.

03-23-07, 12:21 AM	#10
fidget Seaman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 42 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Then I suddenly get attacked by aircraft. I decide to test the lethality of aircraft attacks and...do nothing. Result: no damage. I wait and after half an hour two more aircraft appear, both bombing me TWICE, then attacking with MGs. Result: no damage. I now decide to sail down the japanese coast. I get attacked about a dozen times and recieve absolutely ZERO damage. Now this isn't some minor problem anymore, this is ridiculous. No defensive fire, no evasive maneuvers. Those japanese aviators couldn't hit a barn if they were standing on one. Ok, well, I tried that too. At first, my boat took no damage, so I just ignored the planes. I was approaching Hiroshima at this point and was repeatedly being attacked, but, like you, not getting any damage. Then, along came one plane (I'm now assuming it was some kind of Japanese ASW plane) and it just blew my boat to pieces...so, it seems that the damage depends a lot on what kind of planes attack you.

03-23-07, 12:25 AM	#11
Lawndart Bosun Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 66 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I too miss salvoes and the weather reports. But I read somewhere that the weather reprots still work but you have to map the key in your config file. I also miss the additional commands when you click on a ship mate. It was pretty imersive to navigate the boat and talk with the crew, even if it was really simple. Oh, and I REALLY miss the crew, reloading, repair screens, and hot bottons for the type of mode you are in like serfice attack, etc. I know they have a new system, I just wish they kept the old visual reprosentation... Something about seeing a cut away of the ship made it just feel more real, and worth looking at. Easy mod I suppose. Funny but I've been bombed to hell by planes... I take them very seriously...