One mans opinion of Left v. Right - Page 3

Tchocky · 03-22-07, 12:35 PM

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Is anyone else sick of waste gate's way to naievely criticize anything with his lack of any idea of how things work, why they work, or how they could work? No, waste gate, all your arguments go back to "Poor people deserve to be poor, rich people deserve every penny."

Youre an economic genius, waste gate, an economic genius.

I can always tell when someone's argument has been defeated. The personal attack follows.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...2&postcount=14

Enigma · 03-22-07, 12:39 PM

Haha...Tchocky read my mind....

SUBMAN1 · 03-22-07, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

I can always tell when someone's argument has been defeated. The personal attack follows.

That idea holds true a lot of the time, except when someone is tired of arguing the same points over and over. I do agree that most times though, the personal attacks are a sign of defeat.

-S

Heibges · 03-22-07, 12:45 PM

Socialism is not a political ideal, but a historical process.

Eventually, the human race will get to a point where we will deserve socialism.

As we have become less ignorant and superstitious over the last 3000 years, we have edged closer and closer to it.

600 years ago, the idea of democratic rule, captitalism, and a middle class, would have been the craziest ideas around.

SUBMAN1 · 03-22-07, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Heibges

Socialism is not a political ideal, but a historical process.

Eventually, the human race will get to a point where we will deserve socialism.

As we have become less ignorant and superstitious over the last 3000 years, we have edged closer and closer to it.

600 years ago, the idea of democratic rule, captitalism, and a middle class, would have been the craziest ideas around.

Quit watching Star Trek and come into the real world for once!

The point is, if I work hard, I want to be rewarded. Socialism does not reward that. We will never go that way in this country at least. We are influencing the Communists among us - just look at China! They are moving faster towards a Capitalist mentallity than any of us can imagine. I just watched a TV program on how the Communists and Socialists are slowly losing their grip on power. It is happening as we speak.

dean_acheson · 03-22-07, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

I disagree. You do not have to be as extreme as Hayek to be economically right of center.
There are many differences between Hitler and Stalin. To say that there are not is to take a rediciously simplistic view of the two regimes.

Well, that means you fail to take into account that I am a rediciously simplistic person!

Subnuts · 03-22-07, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dean_acheson

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Originally Posted by Letum

I disagree. You do not have to be as extreme as Hayek to be economically right of center.
There are many differences between Hitler and Stalin. To say that there are not is to take a rediciously simplistic view of the two regimes.

Well, that means you fail to take into account that I am a rediciously simplistic person!

No you're not. You used a word with five syllables in it!

dean_acheson · 03-22-07, 02:16 PM

lol @ subnuts!

TteFAboB · 03-22-07, 03:42 PM

The difference between Hitler and Stalin is that one is a genius, the other's insane. They're Pinky, yes, Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain...

Narf!

SUBMAN1 · 03-22-07, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TteFAboB

The difference between Hitler and Stalin is that one is a genius, the other's insane. They're Pinky, yes, Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain...

Narf!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Heibges · 03-22-07, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Heibges

Socialism is not a political ideal, but a historical process.

Eventually, the human race will get to a point where we will deserve socialism.

As we have become less ignorant and superstitious over the last 3000 years, we have edged closer and closer to it.

600 years ago, the idea of democratic rule, captitalism, and a middle class, would have been the craziest ideas around.

Quit watching Star Trek and come into the real world for once!

The point is, if I work hard, I want to be rewarded. Socialism does not reward that. We will never go that way in this country at least. We are influencing the Communists among us - just look at China! They are moving faster towards a Capitalist mentallity than any of us can imagine. I just watched a TV program on how the Communists and Socialists are slowly losing their grip on power. It is happening as we speak.

I would have to disagree that the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, Yugoslavia, or any other country on this planet were examples of Communism.

The only person in any of those countries who maybe understood Communism was Nikita Krueschev, and the Politburo took him out of power as soon as they realized he understood it.

Krueschev realized that the so-called Communists in Russia had basically only replaced the power structure of the Tzar. He surmised quite correctly that everyone has to be treated the same for communism to work. The flaw in every government that is supposedly communist is that the leaders get all the benefits.

The Bolsheviks replaced the Boyars. The Chicoms replaced the Mandarins. Castro replaced the plantation owners.

Give it a few hundered more years, and maybe we will be ready.

It's funny that the traditional Christian idea of Heaven on Earth after the final battle, is very close to the idea that socialists have of a perfect world.

Skybird · 03-22-07, 05:00 PM

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It's funny that the traditional Christian idea of Heaven on Earth after the final battle, is very close to the idea that socialists have of a perfect world.

Touché!

SUBMAN1 · 03-22-07, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Heibges

It's funny that the traditional Christian idea of Heaven on Earth after the final battle, is very close to the idea that socialists have of a perfect world.

Hardly. I can't imagine a bigger hell.

-S

RedMenace · 03-22-07, 06:13 PM

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Is anyone else sick of waste gate's way to naievely criticize anything with his lack of any idea of how things work, why they work, or how they could work? No, waste gate, all your arguments go back to "Poor people deserve to be poor, rich people deserve every penny."

Youre an economic genius, waste gate, an economic genius.

I can always tell when someone's argument has been defeated. The personal attack follows.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...2&postcount=14

I love it when hypocrisy is put out into the open so well, thank you, you made my day. ^_^

03-22-07, 06:19 PM

Perhaps if you leave your head in the sand you will never have to listen to another opinion which doesn't agree with your own.

BTW I don't think that is a personal attack. I never brought your 'genius' or anything personal into question. I only pointed out that you will change your position when it suits you.

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Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Socialism is not a political ideal, but a historical process. Eventually, the human race will get to a point where we will deserve socialism. As we have become less ignorant and superstitious over the last 3000 years, we have edged closer and closer to it. 600 years ago, the idea of democratic rule, captitalism, and a middle class, would have been the craziest ideas around. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

03-22-07, 03:42 PM	#39
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	The difference between Hitler and Stalin is that one is a genius, the other's insane. They're Pinky, yes, Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain... Narf! __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

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03-22-07, 02:16 PM	#38
dean_acheson Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Midwest - USA Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	lol @ subnuts!

03-22-07, 06:19 PM	#45
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Perhaps if you leave your head in the sand you will never have to listen to another opinion which doesn't agree with your own. BTW I don't think that is a personal attack. I never brought your 'genius' or anything personal into question. I only pointed out that you will change your position when it suits you.