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Old 03-22-07, 09:05 AM   #166
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One question.... just curious and do not want to see attacks on them.

Is the Dev Team for SH4 the same Team that did SHIII, or new and old mixed together? I don't hav SH4 so I can't read the credits if there are any in the manual.
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Old 03-22-07, 09:10 AM   #167
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someone here on the forum worked out that percentage from the amount of sales SH3 has to date compared to the amount of people who are part of this forum. if u are a subsim fan then have internet access theres a very good chance u will know about n post on these forums, thats how we all got here after all.

97% might be a little high but its a fact that the majority of people who buy games dont even know patches exist, i myself only found out out what they were a few years ago and ive had a PC for almost 10 years.

i had this game preordered but the 1st warning sign for me was that visibility was still 8km which is a nonsense left over from SH3. ive now cancelled after readin through the bug thread and im so glad i did as the game seems a mess! im not gonna go through them all here but there are at least 10 which would make quit the game after a couple of hours, i mean what r those ridiculous 2D stick men all about, embarrising!

SH2 was a mess outa the box, SH3 had probs but nothing to major
SH4 has improved graphics/different map, ship models and some added campaign elements but can anyone honestly say that this game is a step forward which warrants a full price tag?
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Old 03-22-07, 09:37 AM   #168
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Magazines survive off advertising revenue. The people advertising are the same software and hardware suppliers they review. As a result they're more than prone to give artificially high ratings.
Misconception. Most reviews are written by freelancers, such as myself. I've written for CGW, Computer Games, Gamespot, etc. I don't give a plugged nickel who advertises, and I've never had a review bumped up in score. The editorial side in legit outlets is kept pretty insulated from the advertising section intentionally.

I thought exactly what you did before I started writing in this industry, but I've been very pleased at how the editors have responded when a publisher starts screaming about a review they don't like. Basically - if you can point out factual errors in the review, fine, otherwise, take a hike.
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Old 03-22-07, 09:56 AM   #169
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Don't wanna hijack this thread and turn it into a "reviews" thread, but just a couple of comments:

The writers I know and respect, especially in the Sims genre, are hard core simmers. Most, like Andy Mahood (a very cool guy, hard core simmer, and real life race car driver) are as experienced and passionate about sims as anyone here, and really WANT sims to be great, because they don't just review them and toss them, they play them for years. This generally, for the major outlets, is not some kid thinking "cool, free games" reviewing. Again - for the major outlets (CGW, CGM (rip), PCG, Gamespot, etc.) There's a lot of crappy stuff on a lot of less professional sites (incuding a fair bit of plagiarism and laziness, like when you can tell they spent about 5 hours total on a game.) And the writers do not give a flying fatooie who advertises and who doesn't. In fact, if there's unfairness, it may be giving little indie publishers more of a break even if the game costs the same.

You can say that you don't give a damn if the casual gamer picks the game up at Best Buy and doesn't like it and tells their friends not to buy it, but if you want continued support and a SHV they need some serious sales, or they'll put their development dollars elsewhere. There's a reason that I don't have a lot of serious flight sims to review these days, compared to years ago when I'd play/review a dozen new combat sims a year. Publisher can get more sales with a mediocre FPS or RPG, so they invest their limited dollars in those.

Don't blame the writers/magazines if the publisher ships review copies and retail copies with 1.0 (and btw, only with some titles do the boxed copies get updated with the latest patches) and reviewers have been playing that one for some time, when they could have waited a week or so and released the fixed version. That's not the developers' desire, by the way - they surely prefer to ship the best product they can, every developer of a sim I've ever met has been pretty passionate about their product. The reviewers' obligation is to the readers. Unless my editor tells me to review the patched version (when it comes out) - and I asked - I'll mention in the article that a patch is out that addresses certain things, but the main body is what they shipped. Hopefully one day every publisher will build in an "auto-patch" function, such that anyone playing has the latest patch, but until then, ship to the stores what you want reviewed. What's the excuse not to?
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Old 03-22-07, 11:11 AM   #170
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Default SH4 PATCH 1.1 Where Can I Get It.

I see people on here are getting the "Silent Hunter:Wolves of the Pacific" patch 1.1. I clicked on the link on the main page here to go to Filefront but It won't let me download it. I also went to Ubisoft's site and nothing was there.

Can someone here help me and point me to where I have to go to get this SH4 1.1 patch or even leave a link? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks alot...

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Old 03-22-07, 11:13 AM   #171
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Here:
ftp://ftp.ubi.com/de/sh4/silent_hunter_4_1.1.exe

And the "voices" patch for the German version:
ftp://ftp.ubi.com/de/sh4/silent_hunt...man_voices.exe
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Old 03-22-07, 11:13 AM   #172
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Yes I also have this problem . Gamershell has a "link" for the patch but you can't download there either , it says "coming soon".
Later edit : Thanks for the ftp link.
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Old 03-22-07, 11:16 AM   #173
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Yes I also have this problem . Gamershell has a "link" for the patch but you can't download there either , it says "coming soon".
Later edit : Thanks for the ftp link.
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Old 03-22-07, 11:17 AM   #174
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Yippie!!!!!!!!! Got it. Thanks guys for your help.
GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!!!!!!

I take it this 1.1 patch is for the American DVD version, right?

Cheers!!!
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Old 03-22-07, 11:20 AM   #175
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Thanks alot!
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Old 03-22-07, 11:21 AM   #176
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I take it this 1.1 patch is for the American DVD version, right?
AFAIK it´s an universal patch.
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Old 03-22-07, 11:21 AM   #177
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It does, yes (North American DVD, I mean).
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Old 03-22-07, 11:24 AM   #178
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I'm now DLing the patch from:
http://www.ubi.com/US/Downloads/Info.aspx?dlId=2172
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Old 03-22-07, 11:44 AM   #179
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And so... I talked with my editor, and he has decided, since the patch is out before the program is out, to review the patched version and then make it very clear to the readers that you need to get and apply the patch for this review to be accurate.

So, things do change! I'm still not convinced it's the "right" thing to do, since they're shipping 1.0 to all the stores, but I can take advanatge of the leeway.

Plus - it means I can stop playing 1.0 and play the patched version (as soon as the official released patch is out) - it is always frustrating to have to play a game that has problems that you know are fixed in a patch.
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Old 03-22-07, 11:53 AM   #180
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Thank you Jeff,

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