One mans opinion of Left v. Right

[dean_acheson]

Originally Posted by Letum

How about Stalin and Hitler?

Both where socialy authoritarian (on the right), however whilst Stalin was on the economic left, Hitler was mainly on the economic right wing.

Whoa, where did you read this? Is something about the concept of National Socialist Workers Party confusing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_fascism

I'm sorry, but if you ain't talking the politics of Fredrick von Hayek, your economics ain't 'right' or 'conservative.'

There is very very little difference between Hitler and Stalin, except Hitler hated Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsies, Communists and democrats, while Stalin hated everybody except, it seems, Hitler himself. So please, leave this misnomer to the World Civ. II classroom, where Marxist Professors like to tout it to wide-eyed freshmen.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by dean_acheson

Whoa, where did you read this? Is something about the concept of National Socialist Workers Party confusing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_fascism

I'm sorry, but if you ain't talking the politics of Fredrick von Hayek, your economics ain't 'right' or 'conservative.'

There is very very little difference between Hitler and Stalin, except Hitler hated Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsies, Communists and democrats, while Stalin hated everybody except, it seems, Hitler himself. So please, leave this misnomer to the World Civ. II classroom, where Marxist Professors like to tout it to wide-eyed freshmen.

I disagree. You do not have to be as extreme as Hayek to be economically right of center.
There are many differences between Hitler and Stalin. To say that there are not is to take a rediciously simplistic view of the two regimes.

[dean_acheson]

Originally Posted by Letum

I disagree. You do not have to be as extreme as Hayek to be economically right of center.
There are many differences between Hitler and Stalin. To say that there are not is to take a rediciously simplistic view of the two regimes.

Well, that means you fail to take into account that I am a rediciously simplistic person!

[Subnuts]

Originally Posted by dean_acheson

Well, that means you fail to take into account that I am a rediciously simplistic person!

No you're not. You used a word with five syllables in it!

[dean_acheson]

lol @ subnuts!

[RedMenace]

Is anyone else sick of waste gate's way to naievely criticize anything with his lack of any idea of how things work, why they work, or how they could work? No, waste gate, all your arguments go back to "Poor people deserve to be poor, rich people deserve every penny."

Youre an economic genius, waste gate, an economic genius.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by RedMenace

Is anyone else sick of waste gate's way to naievely criticize anything with his lack of any idea of how things work, why they work, or how they could work? No, waste gate, all your arguments go back to "Poor people deserve to be poor, rich people deserve every penny."

Youre an economic genius, waste gate, an economic genius.

Well, things in this forum tend to repeat themselves, RM. Some more months and you'll get used to it.

AL and me attacking Islam, Iceman ripplebombing us with bible-quotes, Steed complaing about PC, Brad colliding with some conservatives, Subman and Happy Times complaining of everything getting worse, Bill Nichols strictly limiting himself to naval-related issues, Neal occasionally letting go a one-liner doomed to become a famous quote - and Waste Gate attacking liberals and lefties.

In other words: just the ordinary routine!

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Well, things in this forum tend to repeat themselves, RM. Some more months and you'll get used to it.

AL and me attacking Islam, Iceman ripplebombing us with bible-quotes, Steed complaing about PC, Brad colliding with some conservatives, Subman and Happy Times complaining of everything getting worse, Bill Nichols strictly limiting himself to naval-related issues, Neal occasionally letting go a one-liner doomed to become a famous quote - and Waste Gate attacking liberals and lefties.

In other words: just the ordinary routine!

Don't I get to be stereotyped to?

please?

[Skybird]

Insert:
"Letum sometimes missing the harbour when trying to sail straight by steering left."
(but he has founded a great and famous fan club, so he is excused )

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

AL and me attacking Islam, Iceman ripplebombing us with bible-quotes, Steed complaing about PC, Brad colliding with some conservatives, Subman and Happy Times complaining of everything getting worse, Bill Nichols strictly limiting himself to naval-related issues, Neal occasionally letting go a one-liner doomed to become a famous quote - and Waste Gate attacking liberals and lefties.

In other words: just the ordinary routine!

I am crushed I was not mentioned...

[Torpedo Fodder]

True socialism only works if Anne Frank was right when she opined that "people are basically good". Of course, she wasn't right. People are not innately good, in their natural state humans are violent, hateful, greedy, and jealous (Lord of the Flies illustrates this perfectly). Humans may have the capacity for compassion and empathy, but that is far from their natural state. Such values can only be externally imposed through years of upbringing not top mention centuries of sociteltal evolution, and dire enough circumstances can swiftly strip away this thin veneer away revealing the true, base nature of humanity (witness the reactions of populations en masse during severe natural disasters).

Capitalism can be cruel to those on the bottom, but it works because it appeals to humans' base instincts. CCIP's model of Socialism requires altrism by the society at large to work, which is not a natural human trait like greed, and thus why it will never triumph over capitalism.

In nature, the Weak fall before the Strong: That's simply a harsh reality, and the same applies to human society: We're nothing more than smart animals, and can be just as savage. Get over it.

[TteFAboB]

The difference between Hitler and Stalin is that one is a genius, the other's insane. They're Pinky, yes, Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain...

Narf!

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

The difference between Hitler and Stalin is that one is a genius, the other's insane. They're Pinky, yes, Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain...

Narf!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Originally Posted by RedMenace

Is anyone else sick of waste gate's way to naievely criticize anything with his lack of any idea of how things work, why they work, or how they could work? No, waste gate, all your arguments go back to "Poor people deserve to be poor, rich people deserve every penny."

Youre an economic genius, waste gate, an economic genius.

I can always tell when someone's argument has been defeated. The personal attack follows.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by waste gate

I can always tell when someone's argument has been defeated. The personal attack follows.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...2&postcount=14