I'm gonna do it....Buy new Video...So how about a little advice?

Chief of the Boat · 03-21-07, 07:17 PM

Yeahhh... I shudda given more... sorry. This here is a Gen-You-Wine, off the shelf H/P machine... 3.4 Gc processor, 2 GB RAM, and the trusty ATI Radeon X1300... which I recall seeing is "PCI Express". Audio, etc... but I don't see that being related to video. I'll cross my fingers on power supply... I don't really see these 'war' games doing the video work...drawing instaneous power... like the fantasy zoom/boom ones...

COB

mookiemookie · 03-21-07, 07:27 PM

It's hard to go wrong by trusting Tom's Hardware. They're a great site, and here's a good article that I'm using to determine my next video card:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/03/...ney/index.html

This page, specifically, will give you an idea of the video card hierarchy and what nvidia product is equivalent to what radeon product and vice versa: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/03/...ney/page7.html

StandingCow · 03-21-07, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

It's hard to go wrong by trusting Tom's Hardware. They're a great site, and here's a good article that I'm using to determine my next video card:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/03/...ney/index.html

This page, specifically, will give you an idea of the video card hierarchy and what nvidia product is equivalent to what radeon product and vice versa: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/03/...ney/page7.html

Beat me to it

Tomshardware.com is the best site for this sort of research.

So far my 7950 GTKO from evga has done well with this game, full graphics with post processing and it runs smooth, and I haven't had any of these graphical issues I keep hearing about.

theluckyone17 · 03-21-07, 11:25 PM

I'll pipe up, simply 'cause I'm looking at grabbing a new video card myself.

I do most of my purchasing through newegg.com, simply 'cause I've yet to have a problem with them and they seem to have reasonable (or more than reasonable) prices.

Originally I was going to grab a GeForce 7950GT that was running around $220 off their site... until I noticed the 8800GTS (320MB) card they had from eVGA listed for $280 w/ a $20 mail in rebate.

The $60/$40 difference in price more than makes up for the difference in performance, from the reviews I've read. I couldn't stand to go with something cheaper, since I played that "well, if I only spend a little bit more, then I get a faster card", until I reached the level of the 8800GTS.

Seeing as all of the reviews out there stated that the 320MB version beat everything except the 640MB (and higher) versions, and the price jumps an incredible amount for the higher RAM cards, I figured the 8800GTS 320MB card was about my limit. It should handle anything I throw at it right now (Oblivion, SH4, X3 Reunion).

I gave ATI a thought, but I've had issues with their drivers in the past. Not that it affects most of us, but I run Linux, too. ATI's track record on Linux has been less than stellar. No ATI for me.

Just my two cents.

Onkel Neal · 03-22-07, 12:17 AM

Chief, if it helps, I grabbed a Radeon X1650 Pro with 512MB ram, pixel shader 3.0. Got it for $120 at Circuit City. Mine is AGP, so I am a step behind you, but it runs SH4 well.

StandingCow · 03-22-07, 12:22 AM

Keep in mind, the 8800 cards.. while awesome (or will be) may still have some issues with the drivers, since they are so new.

However, if I were going to spend more than 200 bucks, those are exactly what I would go for nowadays.

Hans Schultz · 03-21-07, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief of the Boat

Yeahhh... I shudda given more... sorry. This here is a Gen-You-Wine, off the shelf H/P machine... 3.4 Gc processor, 2 GB RAM, and the trusty ATI Radeon X1300... which I recall seeing is "PCI Express". Audio, etc... but I don't see that being related to video. I'll cross my fingers on power supply... I don't really see these 'war' games doing the video work...drawing instaneous power... like the fantasy zoom/boom ones...

COB

you really need to find out if it is PCI-E or AGP. I have a GeForce 6800GT and its a decent card, it seems to run stuff very well, but is starting to show its age.
I perfer Nvidia Cards right now and you would be very safe with anything GeForce 6800 or higher. I find toms hardware very biased and you need to look around. once you find out about the PCI-E or AGP and throw out a budget i will be better able to help!

Chief of the Boat · 03-21-07, 07:56 PM

Oh.. I know it's not AGP.. No AGP slot in this grey box. It is just that I don't know how many kinds of 'PCI' video there may be...in this generation. According to the ATI page, the X1300 *is* PCI Express.

Is there a tangible reason for your NVIDIA preference?

I have looked through some of the specs for upper end video, and the rotten truth is that I get lost in the terms and values for them. That's why I am looking for somebody that USES one or another and can say 'why' they prefer...

Now... if this machine did have AGP, I still own a couple V5's... but for all they did on a '98SE machine with Falcon 4 and F/A-18, I bet they stink for SH4 !!

COB

Hans Schultz · 03-21-07, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief of the Boat

Oh.. I know it's not AGP.. No AGP slot in this grey box. It is just that I don't know how many kinds of 'PCI' video there may be...in this generation. According to the ATI page, the X1300 *is* PCI Express.

Is there a tangible reason for your NVIDIA preference?

I have looked through some of the specs for upper end video, and the rotten truth is that I get lost in the terms and values for them. That's why I am looking for somebody that USES one or another and can say 'why' they prefer...

Now... if this machine did have AGP, I still own a couple V5's... but for all they did on a '98SE machine with Falcon 4 and F/A-18, I bet they stink for SH4 !!

COB

I did some research and based off of the X1300 I believe that you have a PCI-E x16 slot.
I perfer Nvidia (and this is my personal preference) because
#1 there chipsets have been performing a littel better than their ATi counterpart.
#2 you cannot beat Nvidias drivers and driver supports they simply take the cake
#3 My favorite Nvidia chipset maker is BFG because they have very good tech support and some cards have lifetime warranties.

here is the card I suggest for you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143049

03-22-07, 12:22 AM	#6
StandingCow Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 355 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Keep in mind, the 8800 cards.. while awesome (or will be) may still have some issues with the drivers, since they are so new. However, if I were going to spend more than 200 bucks, those are exactly what I would go for nowadays. __________________

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Chief of the Boat Electrician's Mate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: On the hill South of Port Angeles, Washington Posts: 136 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Oh.. I know it's not AGP.. No AGP slot in this grey box. It is just that I don't know how many kinds of 'PCI' video there may be...in this generation. According to the ATI page, the X1300 is PCI Express. Is there a tangible reason for your NVIDIA preference? I have looked through some of the specs for upper end video, and the rotten truth is that I get lost in the terms and values for them. That's why I am looking for somebody that USES one or another and can say 'why' they prefer... Now... if this machine did have AGP, I still own a couple V5's... but for all they did on a '98SE machine with Falcon 4 and F/A-18, I bet they stink for SH4 !! COB __________________ In memory of WAHOO

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03-21-07, 07:17 PM	#1
Chief of the Boat Electrician's Mate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: On the hill South of Port Angeles, Washington Posts: 136 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeahhh... I shudda given more... sorry. This here is a Gen-You-Wine, off the shelf H/P machine... 3.4 Gc processor, 2 GB RAM, and the trusty ATI Radeon X1300... which I recall seeing is "PCI Express". Audio, etc... but I don't see that being related to video. I'll cross my fingers on power supply... I don't really see these 'war' games doing the video work...drawing instaneous power... like the fantasy zoom/boom ones... COB __________________ In memory of WAHOO

03-21-07, 07:27 PM	#2
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	It's hard to go wrong by trusting Tom's Hardware. They're a great site, and here's a good article that I'm using to determine my next video card: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/03/...ney/index.html This page, specifically, will give you an idea of the video card hierarchy and what nvidia product is equivalent to what radeon product and vice versa: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/03/...ney/page7.html __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

03-21-07, 11:25 PM	#4
theluckyone17 Captain Join Date: May 2006 Location: Niskayuna, NY Posts: 482 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	I'll pipe up, simply 'cause I'm looking at grabbing a new video card myself. I do most of my purchasing through newegg.com, simply 'cause I've yet to have a problem with them and they seem to have reasonable (or more than reasonable) prices. Originally I was going to grab a GeForce 7950GT that was running around $220 off their site... until I noticed the 8800GTS (320MB) card they had from eVGA listed for $280 w/ a $20 mail in rebate. The $60/$40 difference in price more than makes up for the difference in performance, from the reviews I've read. I couldn't stand to go with something cheaper, since I played that "well, if I only spend a little bit more, then I get a faster card", until I reached the level of the 8800GTS. Seeing as all of the reviews out there stated that the 320MB version beat everything except the 640MB (and higher) versions, and the price jumps an incredible amount for the higher RAM cards, I figured the 8800GTS 320MB card was about my limit. It should handle anything I throw at it right now (Oblivion, SH4, X3 Reunion). I gave ATI a thought, but I've had issues with their drivers in the past. Not that it affects most of us, but I run Linux, too. ATI's track record on Linux has been less than stellar. No ATI for me. Just my two cents.

03-22-07, 12:17 AM	#5
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Chief, if it helps, I grabbed a Radeon X1650 Pro with 512MB ram, pixel shader 3.0. Got it for $120 at Circuit City. Mine is AGP, so I am a step behind you, but it runs SH4 well.