Who has cancelled their order!

[flintlock]

Not I.

I decided to go into battle, bloodied and all! Seriously though, sure it has bugs and perhaps unfinished in areas, but you know Ubi will patch it up and it will hopefully it shall continue to improve as time passes. If you try hard enough, you can find fault in anything. I say reorder it, load it up and enjoy it anyway. Life's too short to sweat the small stuff.

Regardless, good luck with your decision -- whatever it may be.

[Spaxspore]

nope, no game is perfect, thats what patchs and mods r for

[cappy70]

I cancelled my order from Amazon,,not to bug issues though,,( hey,,big time beta tester here ),,no I cancelled due to ridicoulse "pushed" forward delivery dates,,estimated new delivery date: 7 - 14 April....

I have a Walmart Supercenter around the corner here and a Best Buy close...

[OneTinSoldier]

Nope. No game is perfect. But when it come to using deceptive practices, high resolutions upscaled from a low 1024x768 resolution(a first in the game industry), and then making it clear that they know they are deliverying the game in an unfinished state(promised units would be in the imperial system and metric 'might' be offered as an option) is where I draw the line.

I'm only listing the main reasons as to why I'm not giving them my money. If you want to see the myraid of bugs/problems with the game then please go through the other posts in the forum. I'm not going to make a big lengthy list here, someone else can if they want to.

To me they are making it very clear they want our money for an unfinished game. I don't like being lied to and I will not hand over my money to the Decepticons.

I had pre-ordered my copy from the Subsim link to Amazon but I canceled it once I learned that the higher resolutions that are advertised are only 'upscaled' from 1024x768... a first in the industry that says to me, "let's see what we can get away with".

Regards

[OneTinSoldier]

I want to add something... some folks might be wondering why somone like me would still be hanging around here. It's because I still hold out hope. For how long, I don't know.

But my hope is that Ubi will actually come out and say something! And of course I'm hoping that they will say that they will fix the resolutions to actually be what's advertised, instead of just upscaled. And that they promise to finish the game.

But alas:

They avoided the question about whether the game supported Anti-Aliasing prior to release. It's really a pretty simple question to answer. They could have shown some guts by answering it. But nope. And they certainly could have said something about the two issues I listed above by now. But no, they are in hiding, hoping that as many people will hand over their money before they explain that they will not be fixing these issues.

Decepticons I tell you. Where is Optimus Prime when we need him?

[flintlock]

Originally Posted by OneTinSoldier

I canceled it once I learned that the higher resolutions that are advertised are only 'upscaled' from 1024x768... a first in the industry that says to me, "let's see what we can get away with".

I can certainly appreciate your frustration on this point. I still don't have the game, so I'll judge this for myself once I can test it. Though from what I've read, this has got to be, by far, the single largest gripe many people have with SH4 thus far. With any luck, hopefully this may get sorted out in time.

I remain hopeful that there is some bug or other underlying issue at work here.

[Spaxspore]

Originally Posted by OneTinSoldier

Nope. No game is perfect. But when it come to using deceptive practices, high resolutions upscaled from a low 1024x768 resolution(a first in the game industry), and then making it clear that they know they are deliverying the game in an unfinished state(promised units would be in the imperial system and metric 'might' be offered as an option) is where I draw the line.

I'm only listing the main reasons as to why I'm not giving them my money. If you want to see the myraid of bugs/problems with the game then please go through the other posts in the forum. I'm not going to make a big lengthy list here, someone else can if they want to.

To me they are making it very clear they want our money for an unfinished game. I don't like being lied to and I will not hand over my money to the Decepticons.

I had pre-ordered my copy from the Subsim link to Amazon but I canceled it once I learned that the higher resolutions that are advertised are only 'upscaled' from 1024x768... a first in the industry that says to me, "let's see what we can get away with".

Regards

Still looks pretty damn good for upscaled graphics...




pic still dont give it justice, my bro was watchin me play, in that scene and he said it looked like a painting.

[flintlock]

Upscaled or otherwise, I'll concede that is a nice image.

[stabiz]

The sea does, but the sub doesnt.

[d@rk51d3]

Originally Posted by stabiz

The sea does, but the sub doesnt.

Ditto. Been watching a couple of in game vids, and it looks like all the effort went into the water effects. Everything else looks nice, as long as youre not focusing on it. Still, I'll probably end up rushing out and buying it. Either that or STALKER.:hmm:

[cappy70]

Nice video Neal,,teased me even more.....

I say again,I've been into sooo many debates about videocards and tech. stats of AA, resolutions, drivers, and final stats of games.
I played SH3 to "death" and it is still on my HD and patch/GWX it gave new breath into the game and it became like a "reborn" game, again although, I don't remember that many disasters with the original not-patched SH3,,yes,granted there were some annoying bugs that need to be fixed, but hey, where are we today with SH3?

Now I'll take this to the tech.level: When it comes to graphic cards one can see these similar "game-software-debates" hit "videocard-hardware-debates": TO MUCH JAGGIES with my videocard; This videocard is a disaster and soooo on.

My point is: All of us in here with so many different PC configs. can for sure produce as many different effects/bugs/none-wanted-effects in a game as we can ask for and blame the game to some extent, but how our computer look like inside/config is another thing, housekeeping, etc,etc,.

Like the other day: I had a USB port in front of my computer that was faulty and it produced stuttering in games when it installed my new keyboard.
Clean out the closed CAB files and you'll see what magic that does,,,,use a program called "Ace Utility". FreeRegistryFix I can also recommend.

Basic game problems is one thing that shows up over and over again from different configs.
I.e. r e a l BUGS.....................

[OneTinSoldier]

Nice pic. But I can see that I would be facing shimmering and jaggies, which to me, personally, I'm not speaking for anyone but myself... I find unacceptable in a sim made in the year 2007.


Now, if the game actually delivered a 3D rendering at 1600x1200 on my system, and not upscaled from 1024x768, then it would help towards reducing the shimmering/jaggies, which are especially pronounced with distant objects. Although an actual, real, higher res wouldn't totally alleviate the jaggies and shimmering it would help and I would be willing to purchase the game, if it were real!

But I have been convinced it's not and that the advertised higher resolutions are faked by being upscaled from 1024x768 by the evidence and testimony that's been presented on the forum here. To me, upscaling from 1024x768 is a practice in deception, a lie, a cheat. I for one am taking a stand against this and Voting 'NO' by voicing my protest here on the forum and with my wallet.

If evidence and testimony comes forth showing that the higher resolutions are in fact 'real' and not just upscaled, then I apologize. If that happens and if they promise to finish the game, then I will likely purchase it.

[Reece]

Neal Said:
As I get more familair with SH4, I'm liking it more and more. We should here about a patch soon that will fix the major issues. SH3, SH2, SH1 all had bugs and unfinished features and were upgraded and patched. Don't any of you fellows remember the sub vs sub and rescue pilot missions that were in the SH1 manual but not in the game, until they released the Patrol disc #1?

Hey, it comes down to one thing: how much you like submarine games. To hell with Ubisoft's politics and promises, just gimme the game.

You have no idea Neal as to the amount of time, nail chewing, pacing floor, reading threads, spent on this one game. I value your input as well as a lot of others and this just makes it even more frustrating! ... What to do ... what to do!
Would you believe me if I said I phoned back to replace the order as it turns out the collectors edition is not due in till the 23rd!!:hmm:
Lucky they had done nothing yet! or is it!

[geetrue]

Way to go Reece ... welcome back ... if I had a whistle I would pipe you back on board ...

Were all in the same boat so to speak ... now that's funny if you think about it. :rotfl:

[Meerkat154]

Originally Posted by OneTinSoldier

Nice pic. But I can see that I would be facing shimmering and jaggies, which to me, personally, I'm not speaking for anyone but myself... I find unacceptable in a sim made in the year 2007.


Now, if the game actually delivered a 3D rendering at 1600x1200 on my system, and not upscaled from 1024x768, then it would help towards reducing the shimmering/jaggies, which are especially pronounced with distant objects. Although an actual, real, higher res wouldn't totally alleviate the jaggies and shimmering it would help and I would be willing to purchase the game, if it were real!

But I have been convinced it's not and that the advertised higher resolutions are faked by being upscaled from 1024x768 by the evidence and testimony that's been presented on the forum here. To me, upscaling from 1024x768 is a practice in deception, a lie, a cheat. I for one am taking a stand against this and Voting 'NO' by voicing my protest here on the forum and with my wallet.

If evidence and testimony comes forth showing that the higher resolutions are in fact 'real' and not just upscaled, then I apologize. If that happens and if they promise to finish the game, then I will likely purchase it.

Major Newb here and enjoy these forums

I also just cancelled my order...but will most likley re-order once the major issues have been resolved. I have to agree to release a game in 2007 with 1024x768 "upscaled" output is not acceptable. I'm using the Dell 24 inch widescreen which runs perfectly on many of the recent titles and I'm not about to run SH4 at 1024x768. One of the reasons why I was excited about SH4 was the higher resolutions that were reported to be in the final release. I'm concerned that the graphics rendering limitations are related to the engine and there will be no "easy fix" from Ubisoft for this issue without re-writing the entire rendering engine.

The second concern is the reports on users reporting that SH4 fells more like a "shooter" with less simulation. Can anyone comment on this? I suspect this can be resolved via modding.

Just my opinion - from all the issues reported so far - I'm under the impression this product was rushed to the market. Let's hope the patches will resolve the glaring issues.

Oh well - back to SH3 for now. Don't mind the 1024x768 there - game is a few years old now
-Meerkat