Radar and Sonar are unfinished stations? (solved)

Payoff · 03-19-07, 02:16 PM

Hope that patch is in the works.

Sulikate · 03-19-07, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Payoff

Hope that patch is in the works.

I agree!

gronbek · 03-19-07, 03:14 PM

Hi,

I am shocked by this.

I am seriously concidering going back to SH3.
And this is really not a bug in that term. This was left out. And its really sad that the manual is describing functional stations.
The manual is lying and there is no mentioned about this in the readme. I wonder what else is not working in this Sim?

BR Anders

mookiemookie · 03-19-07, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gronbek

Hi,

I am shocked by this.

I am seriously concidering going back to SH3.
And this is really not a bug in that term. This was left out. And its really sad that the manual is describing functional stations.
The manual is lying and there is no mentioned about this in the readme. I wonder what else is not working in this Sim?

BR Anders

SH3 was no better in this regard. There were things in the manual that were left out of the game.

malkuth74 · 03-19-07, 03:18 PM

The stations are Their but don't work? When you used sonar were you dived? And are you sure your sub had radar?

Some other guy posted that he used Radar to track ships during fog. So I'm hoping you just don't understand what going on, or your sub does not have Radar yet.

Arrowhead2k1 · 03-19-07, 03:21 PM

Yeah, make sure you dive to use the sonar as the hydrophones need to be in the water. Those are the most important stations for any subsim, how can they not finish them!

Payoff · 03-19-07, 03:20 PM

In another thread Neal said he uses the Home & End keys to rotate the sonar head, and someone else said you have to be at 25m to pick up a sonar contact. Are you finding this as well?

Gizzmoe · 03-19-07, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gronbek

And this is really not a bug in that term. This was left out. And its really sad that the manual is describing functional stations.
The manual is lying and there is no mentioned about this in the readme.

Please, don´t jump to conclusions before it is even 100% clear that those stations don´t work. Besides, there´s nothing that a patch can´t solve.

Faamecanic · 03-19-07, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by gronbek

And this is really not a bug in that term. This was left out. And its really sad that the manual is describing functional stations.
The manual is lying and there is no mentioned about this in the readme.

Please, don´t jump to conclusions before it is even 100% clear that those stations don´t work. Besides, there´s nothing that a patch can´t solve.

Ughh...and we heard that same song and dance with SH3... And how many bugs were STILL left after Patch 1.4b?? Bugs that modders without a SDK fixed, which means they could have easily been fixed by the devs.

sorry.... Im sick of Ubi, EA, and other game publishers running all over us gamers with a "promise" it will be fixed in the next patch.

I was going to run out and buy SH4 tommorow.... but now after the low res issues, and the non FSAA support (hello.... 1996 has been over for 10 years now..) Im in no hurry.

-Pv- · 03-19-07, 07:20 PM

Is everyone certain the problem with the SD radar supposedly detecting a surface contact is not due to a misunderstanding? Perhaps another sensor detected the ship (deck crew visual or sonar) and it's the way the WO reports the contact that causes confusion?

After all, when a game is new and just learning it, there are always things that are misunderstood at 1st and all the old hands are still explaining to newbies a year later. Like the non-functional sonar head that had movement keys after all.

Also, I suspect there is a minimum depth that leaves the SD exposed where passing below it momentarily would put it out of action, or a wave. Once surfaced enough to use it again, it would take a while to dry off enough to operate.

Or,
Could the devs have combined all the radars into one type only changing sensitivity as the model progresses?

It also seems to me the screens in this series are for a training run. I have seen games where scripted training sequences are more for familiarization and features than realism and a campaign patrol or mission scenario might work differently.
-Pv-

jeff lackey · 03-19-07, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -Pv-

Is everyone certain the problem with the SD radar supposedly detecting a surface contact is not due to a misunderstanding? Perhaps another sensor detected the ship (deck crew visual or sonar) and it's the way the WO reports the contact that causes confusion?

In this case, I don't think so - the report very clearly says "radar contact".

03-19-07, 02:16 PM	#1
Payoff Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nash Town, USA Posts: 525 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Hope that patch is in the works. __________________ "Hit Shokaku class carrier with three out of six torpedos. Recieved 105 depth charges during three hour period. Heard four terrific explosions in the direction of target, two and one half hours after attack. Believe that baby sank!" Lieutenant Commander Herman Kossler USS Cavalla

03-19-07, 03:18 PM	#5
malkuth74 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 377 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	The stations are Their but don't work? When you used sonar were you dived? And are you sure your sub had radar? Some other guy posted that he used Radar to track ships during fog. So I'm hoping you just don't understand what going on, or your sub does not have Radar yet. __________________

03-19-07, 03:20 PM	#7
Payoff Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nash Town, USA Posts: 525 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	In another thread Neal said he uses the Home & End keys to rotate the sonar head, and someone else said you have to be at 25m to pick up a sonar contact. Are you finding this as well? __________________ "Hit Shokaku class carrier with three out of six torpedos. Recieved 105 depth charges during three hour period. Heard four terrific explosions in the direction of target, two and one half hours after attack. Believe that baby sank!" Lieutenant Commander Herman Kossler USS Cavalla

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03-19-07, 03:14 PM	#3
gronbek Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 54 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi, I am shocked by this. I am seriously concidering going back to SH3. And this is really not a bug in that term. This was left out. And its really sad that the manual is describing functional stations. The manual is lying and there is no mentioned about this in the readme. I wonder what else is not working in this Sim? BR Anders

03-19-07, 03:21 PM	#6
Arrowhead2k1 Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 112 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Yeah, make sure you dive to use the sonar as the hydrophones need to be in the water. Those are the most important stations for any subsim, how can they not finish them!

03-19-07, 07:20 PM	#10
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Is everyone certain the problem with the SD radar supposedly detecting a surface contact is not due to a misunderstanding? Perhaps another sensor detected the ship (deck crew visual or sonar) and it's the way the WO reports the contact that causes confusion? After all, when a game is new and just learning it, there are always things that are misunderstood at 1st and all the old hands are still explaining to newbies a year later. Like the non-functional sonar head that had movement keys after all. Also, I suspect there is a minimum depth that leaves the SD exposed where passing below it momentarily would put it out of action, or a wave. Once surfaced enough to use it again, it would take a while to dry off enough to operate. Or, Could the devs have combined all the radars into one type only changing sensitivity as the model progresses? It also seems to me the screens in this series are for a training run. I have seen games where scripted training sequences are more for familiarization and features than realism and a campaign patrol or mission scenario might work differently. -Pv-