Things you like or don't like about SH4

[Gizzmoe]

Here you can praise SH4 or post about things that you miss in SH4. Please read the Subsim memo before you post here. Constructive criticism is helpful, wild rants are not!

SUBSIM Memo
Ahoy fellow Subsim skippers!
A quick reminder: as we did when SH2 and SH3 were released, I would like to request your cooperation in keeping Subsim a positive and productive discussion forum for Silent Hunter 4. I know the dev team have worked really long and hard to make a great US Pacific sub simulation. Just like every computer game made since Duke Nukem wore short pants, there will likely be some glitches and bugs. All games get patches, none of this is news to long time gamers. Let's list anything we see amiss in the Bug Thread. Silent Hunter is the only show in town and Subsim is here for the long run. Feel free to criticise and complain but please, do so with some respect, and courtesy. Even though this is the Internet, we should try to be professional.

Good hunting!
Neal
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[Red Devil]

I did read somewhere in here that it my responsibility to place competent crewmen in the correct, or best, locations. This, if its true is crap! I have a Jap destroyer bearing down on me, crash diving and have to take time out to tell Joe to replace Fred on the dive planes because we are not diving fast enough!!! Yeah Right! Or the radar/asdic man is blind or deaf on one side!!!

If the worst case scenario is realised, my patience will soon evaporate and it will end up on the shelf!

[AJ!]

I dont like the fact i dont have the game yet

[OneTinSoldier]

Originally Posted by AJ!

I dont like the fact i dont have the game yet

When opening this thread I thought I would post the same thing you did AJ, while at the same time thinking... I'll bet someone has already posted that. Sure enough, you beat me to it!

[donut]

Depth in meters,on USN Sub

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by donut

Depth in meters,on USN Sub

That´s a bug which will be fixed soon.

[Drebbel]

Originally Posted by Red Devil

I did read somewhere in here that it my responsibility to place competent crewmen in the correct, or best, locations. This, if its true is crap!

Thats why you can set up ritating crews

[malkuth74]

So if no AA then you have to manualy shut it off in drivers if forced or it will mess it up? If so then I will be running at max res if thats the case. Usually Max Res and AA don't mix well.

AMD 64 3500+
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[newsoft]

Ok, I've been lurking for many moons now and I just have to get some things off my chest. First though, I'm really looking forward to SHIV and I expect to take delivery of my pre-ordered copy on friday. I hope to relive those wonderful days of -96 all over again.

However..., my nr 1 pet peeve is not the lack of AA, not even the flag size. (probably fixed in the first mod) No, for me it is the transparency of the water! It just doesn't sit right with me. I thought SHIII had it perfected. This just feels like eye candy for it's own sake. I mean, how often, on photos, can you actually see 6-10 feet below the water line? (not pics of yachts anchored at some mediterrrenean atoll, mind you ) I sure hope there's a setting for this.

There.. feels much better now. Now, give me my Perch or Tambor boat..

[Ark]

Originally Posted by newsoft

Ok, I've been lurking for many moons now and I just have to get some things off my chest. First though, I'm really looking forward to SHIV and I expect to take delivery of my pre-ordered copy on friday. I hope to relive those wonderful days of -96 all over again.

However..., my nr 1 pet peeve is not the lack of AA, not even the flag size. (probably fixed in the first mod) No, for me it is the transparency of the water! It just doesn't sit right with me. I thought SHIII had it perfected. This just feels like eye candy for it's own sake. I mean, how often, on photos, can you actually see 6-10 feet below the water line? (not pics of yachts anchored at some mediterrrenean atoll, mind you ) I sure hope there's a setting for this.

There.. feels much better now. Now, give me my Perch or Tambor boat..

In some areas of the Pacific, you can see quite a ways below the waterline.

What you see is actually quite realistic. If you turned it off, you would essentially be making the game less realistic.

[Lawndart]

I agree Newsoft, the reflective properties of day time and the angle we view the water... It's a little gamey. I'm sure its cool looking but if it can be disabled that would be cool.

I thought I was the only one who thought this

[newsoft]

Although, in the game's defence, I'll have to say that things look a little better now that user-posted screenshots starts to surface in the screen/vid thread. I think Ubi maybe overemphazised that "gamey" aspect in their shots. Also, nice to see that people seems to be playing without that "Hollywood-filter".

[gronbek]

I could be wrong, but I prefer the atmosphere in SH3.
In SH4 you really do not get the feeling that you are the captain.
Lack of captains quarters. Icons of stations instead of the crew. If i remember correctly
I could interact with the crew in SH3 by clicking on them, they would turn around. I could take the crews position also. In SH4 it none of those 2 are possible. At least not as far as I know.
Feels little bit more arcadish.
BR Anders

[heartc]

Originally Posted by gronbek

I could be wrong, but I prefer the atmosphere in SH3.
In SH4 you really do not get the feeling that you are the captain.
Lack of captains quarters. Icons of stations instead of the crew. If i remember correctly
I could interact with the crew in SH3 by clicking on them, they would turn around. I could take the crews position also. In SH4 it none of those 2 are possible. At least not as far as I know.
Feels little bit more arcadish.
BR Anders

More arcadish because you can't click on people making them turn around robotically and look at you with that eerie stare?
Also, having those station icons instead of cloned faces down at the control bar is way more sim-like than SHIII's solution. I didn't like that at all. Good thing NYGM mod came around.

So, yes, you can see 6-10ft below the surface in many cases.

True. In fact, I've read many times that in calm water conditions subs in the PTO could be sometimes seen even down at periscope depth from the air. This was also simulated in SHI - when sea state was "calm", you were occasionally attacked from planes circling overhead while at PD, even with the scope down. Was always a huge gamble to move into a CV group in nice weather conditions.

People should get their facts straightened out before complaining me thinks.

[Sailor Steve]

Leaving Subic Bay in a destroyer we could see the bottom, literally. Rocks and plants and dolphins swimming under the ship. I don't know exactly how deep it was, but it was a lot more than 10 feet. Even carriers used that same passage; so yes, in some areas the water is amazingly clear.