Jewish Easter

[Letum]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Jewish calendar.

Thanks!


eii!...."Jewish year is not the same length as a solar year" that's confusing!

Why do they have leap years if the Jewish year is not the same length as a solar year anyway? :hmm:


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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Not all christian faiths celebrate Easter either, Jehovah Witnesses, don't celebrate Christmas, Easter, New Yrs, Fathers & Mothers day and birthdays.

just for the fun of pedantism:
No Christian Churches celebrate Fathers & Mothers day technically. I don't know about the roots of Father's Day, but we didn't have it when I was young and Mothers day is a derivative of Mothering Sunday which is originally about returning to your "mother Church" and nothing to do with your biological mother. (IIRC, I am no Christian myself)

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Letum

No Christian Churches celebrate Fathers & Mothers day technically.

Your right. Most christain faiths recognise Fathers/Mothers day, like they allow their children to wish their mum a happy mothers day, but Jehovah Witnesses wont even allow that, cause i am told you only worship one God and celebration should only be for Him.

[Kruger]

I have some relatives in the States, and they are jewish. I just want to know when I should call them...and wish them all the best, stuff like this.

[joea]

In the Eastern Orthodox churches, Easter is referred to as Pascha.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Kruger

I have some relatives in the States, and they are jewish. I just want to know when I should call them...and wish them all the best, stuff like this.

Sunday, April 1, or Monday before sundown. Even the week before is just fine. We're already wishing people here a happy holiday.

Do it right and show off a bit. Wish them a "Chag Sah'mei'ach" (Hebrew, the 2 "ch" sounds are gutteral) or if that's too difficult to pronounce, say "Good Yom Tov" (Yiddish/Hebrew) - all meaning "happy holiday".

Originally Posted by joea

In the Eastern Orthodox churches, Easter is referred to as Pascha.

Pascha is Aramaic for Pesach which is Hebrew for Passover in English. Origin:

"I will pass through the land of Egypt on this night, and I will smite every firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast, and upon all the gods of Egypt will I wreak judgments I, the Lord.

And the blood will be for you for a sign upon the houses where you will be, and I will see the blood and pass over <U'Pasachti> you, and there will be no plague to destroy [you] when I smite the [people of the] land of Egypt."
- Exodus 12:12-13

[Iceman]

Galatians 4

[1] Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
[2] But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
[3] Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
[4] But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
[5] To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
[6] And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
[7] Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
[8] Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
[9] But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
[10] Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
[11] I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
[12] Brethren, I beseech you, be as I am; for I am as ye are: ye have not injured me at all.
[13] Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first.
[14] And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.
[15] Where is then the blessedness ye spake of? for I bear you record, that, if it had been possible, ye would have plucked out your own eyes, and have given them to me.
[16] Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
[17] They zealously affect you, but not well; yea, they would exclude you, that ye might affect them.
[18] But it is good to be zealously affected always in a good thing, and not only when I am present with you.
[19] My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
[20] I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you.
[21] Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
[22] For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
[23] But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
[24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
[25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
[26] But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
[27] For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
[28] Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
[29] But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
[30] Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
[31] So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

A day of rest and the passover are the only days I recall to be observed by man...and as to the specific day of either I think that is silly, obedience is done in the heart between a man and God.

Jewish Easter ...what a topic lol...

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Iceman

and as to the specific day of either I think that is silly, obedience is done in the heart between a man and God.

I wonder whether Jesus thought Malachi was silly. :hmm:

22. Keep in remembrance the teaching of Moses, My servant-the laws and ordinances which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel.
23. Lo, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord,
24. that he may turn the heart of the fathers back through the children, and the heart of the children back through their fathers-lest I come and smite the earth with utter destruction."
- Malachi 3

Come to think of it, I wonder whether Jesus thought G-d Himself was silly. :hmm:

44. But despite all this, while they are in the land of their enemies, I will not despise them nor will I reject them to annihilate them, thereby breaking My covenant that is with them, for I am the Lord their God.
45. I will remember for them the covenant [made with] the ancestors, whom I took out from the land of Egypt before the eyes of the nations, to be a God to them. I am the Lord.
46. These are the statutes, the ordinances, and the laws that the Lord gave between Himself and the children of Israel on Mount Sinai, by the hand of Moses.
- Leviticus 26


7. For what great nation is there that has God so near to it, as the Lord our God is at all times that we call upon Him?
8. And which great nation is it that has just statutes and ordinances, as this entire Torah, which I set before you this day?
- Deuteronomy 4

Jesus wouldn't have known what in the world Paul was yapping about some 49 years later.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

I wonder whether Jesus thought Malachi was silly. :hmm:

22. Keep in remembrance the teaching of Moses, My servant-the laws and ordinances which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel.
23. Lo, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord,
24. that he may turn the heart of the fathers back through the children, and the heart of the children back through their fathers-lest I come and smite the earth with utter destruction."
- Malachi 3

Come to think of it, I wonder whether Jesus thought G-d Himself was silly. :hmm:

44. But despite all this, while they are in the land of their enemies, I will not despise them nor will I reject them to annihilate them, thereby breaking My covenant that is with them, for I am the Lord their God.
45. I will remember for them the covenant [made with] the ancestors, whom I took out from the land of Egypt before the eyes of the nations, to be a God to them. I am the Lord.
46. These are the statutes, the ordinances, and the laws that the Lord gave between Himself and the children of Israel on Mount Sinai, by the hand of Moses.
- Leviticus 26


7. For what great nation is there that has God so near to it, as the Lord our God is at all times that we call upon Him?
8. And which great nation is it that has just statutes and ordinances, as this entire Torah, which I set before you this day?
- Deuteronomy 4

Jesus wouldn't have known what in the world Paul was yapping about some 49 years later.

Acts 7
[49] Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
[50] Hath not my hand made all these things?
[51] Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

Cursed is eveyone that liveth under the law.

Saved by Grace Baby!

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

I wonder whether Jesus thought Malachi was silly. :hmm:

Seeing how Jesus lives in my heart ... I asked him if he thought Malachi was silly and this was His answer:

Originally Posted by Jesus

Malachi 4

1For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. 2But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. 3And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.

The Lord always answers my prayers with "Yes", "No" or "Wait" ... except one time He gave me a Jewish answer and said, "What's in it for me"

I had been praying for revival ...

[JSLTIGER]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Sunday, April 1, or Monday before sundown. Even the week before is just fine. We're already wishing people here a happy holiday.

Do it right and show off a bit. Wish them a "Chag Sah'mei'ach" (Hebrew, the 2 "ch" sounds are gutteral) or if that's too difficult to pronounce, say "Good Yom Tov" (Yiddish/Hebrew) - all meaning "happy holiday".

Pascha is Aramaic for Pesach which is Hebrew for Passover in English. Origin:

To the first part of this, most calendars have the date for Passover (and other Jewish holidays on them. If you call the day before you see them, you should be set.

As for the second part, the reason for the similarity in the name and timing between Easter and Passover probably has to do with the fact that Jesus' Last Supper was actually a Passover Seder (the festive meal held on the first and second nights of the holiday [except in Israel, where it's only held on the first night]).

P.S. @ Avon Lady: I know its a little early for this yet, but from someone in the Diaspora:
!לשנה הבאה בירושלים

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Your right. Most christain faiths recognise Fathers/Mothers day, like they allow their children to wish their mum a happy mothers day, but Jehovah Witnesses wont even allow that, cause i am told you only worship one God and celebration should only be for Him.

Yeah, not even birthdays. It must suck being a kid.