Court Strikes Down D.C. Handgun Ban

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Fish

I think judge's shouldn't be political chosen.
Sounds ridiculous to me, a democratic or conservative court of appeal.

Only the Supreme court is like this. Other judges are elected. Some circuits just typically rule conservatively. THis may be one of them.

-S

[Bertgang]

Maybe I am wrong, but the problem I see with you system is about this:

US have a very large legal market for personal weapons; no special problem, until everything runs as supposed (just fine people, with a responsible attitude, has the right to purchase rifles and pistols).

More difficult to say if all legal weapons owners will be so fine as supposed.
Here I'm not speaking about the rare man who could become a mad murder, but the vicious use of this freedom.
Maybe someone is ready to sell again his weapons to someone who couldn't make a purchase on the legal market.
Maybe exist laws against that, but the trick to overrun them is really simple; sell your revolver to the worst criminal, then tell to police that it was lost, forgotten or stolen somewhere.
An easy and safe way to make money.

As I can see on this forum, lot of US homes are filled with any kind of weapons; why a criminal should buy them, when it's so easy to have some for free by simple theft?
Sure, it's a risk of bullets, but normal people sometimes sleeps, leaves home for holidays and so on; furthermore, the good armed cityzen isn't a full time armed sentinel or sniper.

Maybe someone has really an added chance to flee a chicken's thief, but I frankly doubt that the average outcome of your free weapon market could be for the legal side.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Bertgang

Maybe I am wrong, but the problem I see with you system is about this:

US have a very large legal market for personal weapons; no special problem, until everything runs as supposed (just fine people, with a responsible attitude, has the right to purchase rifles and pistols).

More difficult to say if all legal weapons owners will be so fine as supposed.
Here I'm not speaking about the rare man who could become a mad murder, but the vicious use of this freedom.
Maybe someone is ready to sell again his weapons to someone who couldn't make a purchase on the legal market.
Maybe exist laws against that, but the trick to overrun them is really simple; sell your revolver to the worst criminal, then tell to police that it was lost, forgotten or stolen somewhere.
An easy and safe way to make money.

As I can see on this forum, lot of US homes are filled with any kind of weapons; why a criminal should buy them, when it's so easy to have some for free by simple theft?
Sure, it's a risk of bullets, but normal people sometimes sleeps, leaves home for holidays and so on; furthermore, the good armed cityzen isn't a full time armed sentinel or sniper.

Maybe someone has really an added chance to flee a chicken's thief, but I frankly doubt that the average outcome of your free weapon market could be for the legal side.

I see your point. I have several weapons as you may have figured out, but one thing is for certain on every last one of them - I have a paper trail on where they have been and when they were purchased. What you may not understand is that each and every last one of them has a serial # on it, so if it were ever stolen - reporting it stolen could be a major offence to the person that posseses it when the cops find it.

One more thing - anyone I know that has a gun (majority do in the state I live in) practices with it. They know how to shoot something - unlike what you see in the movies where they can't hit a barn door. Of course this can be annoying on a rainy day when you have to wait for a lane at the local range. Arrghh!!!

Last thing - a simple statement as given by our founding fathers (Benjamin Franklin):

They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security

-S

[Tchocky]

Are there any states where a level of training is mandatory for gun ownership? Just curious, seeing as guns seem to be much less dangerous when the carrier knows what the hell he's doing

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Are there any states where a level of training is mandatory for gun ownership? Just curious, seeing as guns seem to be much less dangerous when the carrier knows what the hell he's doing

No.

For a Concealed Permit though, there are some states that have mandatory training.

Getting a gun in the first place is a major step, and it is one that is not taken lightly. Anyone that I have known that has ever taken that step, didn't hesitate to go train with it on their own. Does that answer it?

-S

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Getting a gun in the first place is a major step, and it is one that is not taken lightly. Anyone that I have known that has ever taken that step, didn't hesitate to go train with it on their own. Does that answer it?

-S

That's good to know.

[AVGWarhawk]

Any hefty intruder in ones home than is not equal force then under that logic! :p Doesn't matter though since my state doesn't care as much as you NY'rs.


Yes, Joe strongman that does not know his own strenght is subject to much the same. Just like when a man overpowers a woman. She is not equal.

Openly carrying a fire arm is legal in Colorado. A permit is required for concealed carry (CCW). Since we are tapped into the internet crime database the waiting period is about 45 minutes and there is no limit as to the numer of guns one can buy ina a day, week, month or year.