Modding SH4 might be easier than some people think

03-10-07, 06:09 AM

Modding SH4 might be easier than some people think. Modders have learned a lot from modding SH3. If SH4 uses the same type of files and they are also accessible, then SH3 modders can use their experience and should be able to mod SH4 quite easily. Hopefully some of the hard-coded files from SH3 will be more accessible in SH4.

Kapitan_Phillips · 03-10-07, 09:53 AM

That would be nice. It'd be even more open if they release the SDK, which basically lets you do what the devs do. Fingers crossed!

GlobalExplorer · 03-10-07, 10:16 AM

It might be harder as well

It all hinges on if they still use text files or not, and if there are more internal glitches like the savegame bug or hardcoded stuff or less. We will see ..

Jimbuna · 03-10-07, 10:51 AM

Fingers crossed everyone

Kapitan_Phillips · 03-10-07, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer

It might be harder as well

It all hinges on if they still use text files or not, and if there are more internal glitches like the savegame bug or hardcoded stuff or less. We will see ..

I'm willing to bet a few of the devs have tried GWX with SH3. I think much of what was hardcoded wont be, if they can help it. And I sure hope they fixed the savegame bug, it was quite a major gripe when it came out

THE_MASK · 03-10-07, 04:23 PM

If things need modding at the release do we ask for hard coded things to be patched and do we have a thread asking for things that are hard coded to be fixed . What i mean is do we concentrate on hard coded things that need to be fixed in a patch once people figure out what cannot be easily modded . Could a group of modders from this site get together and officially request hard coded things to be included in a patch . We need a plan and tactics . What do you think ?

Its too late shuting the gate when the horse has bolted,

03-10-07, 10:55 PM

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Q: VikingGrandad: Is SH4 being developed in such a way that it will be even more open to community modding than SH3 is?

A: Definitely. We've took a hard look at what the community has modded on the game, plus stuff that we wanted to be moddable ourselves. Whatever we could improve, we did, and we won't stop here

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3/m/7651021115

I found this quote from one of the SH4 developers on Ubisoft's website. It looks like SH4 will overall be more open for modding than SH3 was.

Tuddley3 · 03-11-07, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nvdrifter

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Q: VikingGrandad: Is SH4 being developed in such a way that it will be even more open to community modding than SH3 is?

A: Definitely. We've took a hard look at what the community has modded on the game, plus stuff that we wanted to be moddable ourselves. Whatever we could improve, we did, and we won't stop here

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3/m/7651021115

I found this quote from one of the SH4 developers on Ubisoft's website. It looks like SH4 will overall be more open for modding than SH3 was.

Well yeah, I think this will make "word of mouth" about SH4 more than SH3 was. Ubisoft could maybe make a few extra bucks by listening us faithful SH3 users. We, I believe, are the future for what SH4 will become, and much more. I am sure they will keep a close eye on us here at Subsim about what we say in the first month or so, so they can be sure to include anything major in the SH4 1.1 Patch, so test it hard, and speak up so they can be aware of it.

Drebbel · 03-11-07, 09:47 AM

@ Tuddley3:

Hmm, why would the dev-team invest resources in order to convert a good mod into a future patch, unless it is a bug fix of course ? Regarding additional features I hope the dev-team will give us new stuff and not convert a mod.

I also hope the install feature of SH4 allows multiple installs, all with their own register settings. But I think we are not going to get that

THE_MASK · 03-11-07, 10:40 PM

Ok from what i have read about SH4 so far , it seems to me that the devs have bent over backwards (not literally) to accommodate our requests . I can envisage tons of mods but most importantly i can see cross modding from SH3 to SH4 and back . Modders prepare for sleep depravation .

03-12-07, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sober

Ok from what i have read about SH4 so far , it seems to me that the devs have bent over backwards (not literally) to accommodate our requests . I can envisage tons of mods but most importantly i can see cross modding from SH3 to SH4 and back . Modders prepare for sleep depravation .

Sounds good to me. Drinks all around!

sh3rules · 03-15-07, 12:36 PM

I'd love to see an SDK!

*lights a candle to St. Guijuelo*

03-10-07, 06:09 AM	#1
nvdrifter Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Modding SH4 might be easier than some people think Modding SH4 might be easier than some people think. Modders have learned a lot from modding SH3. If SH4 uses the same type of files and they are also accessible, then SH3 modders can use their experience and should be able to mod SH4 quite easily. Hopefully some of the hard-coded files from SH3 will be more accessible in SH4.

03-10-07, 09:53 AM	#2
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	That would be nice. It'd be even more open if they release the SDK, which basically lets you do what the devs do. Fingers crossed! __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

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GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	It might be harder as well It all hinges on if they still use text files or not, and if there are more internal glitches like the savegame bug or hardcoded stuff or less. We will see .. __________________

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,692 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Fingers crossed everyone __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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03-10-07, 04:23 PM	#6
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	If things need modding at the release do we ask for hard coded things to be patched and do we have a thread asking for things that are hard coded to be fixed . What i mean is do we concentrate on hard coded things that need to be fixed in a patch once people figure out what cannot be easily modded . Could a group of modders from this site get together and officially request hard coded things to be included in a patch . We need a plan and tactics . What do you think ? Its too late shuting the gate when the horse has bolted,

03-11-07, 09:47 AM	#9
Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	@ Tuddley3: Hmm, why would the dev-team invest resources in order to convert a good mod into a future patch, unless it is a bug fix of course ? Regarding additional features I hope the dev-team will give us new stuff and not convert a mod. I also hope the install feature of SH4 allows multiple installs, all with their own register settings. But I think we are not going to get that

03-11-07, 10:40 PM	#10
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Ok from what i have read about SH4 so far , it seems to me that the devs have bent over backwards (not literally) to accommodate our requests . I can envisage tons of mods but most importantly i can see cross modding from SH3 to SH4 and back . Modders prepare for sleep depravation .

03-15-07, 12:36 PM	#12
sh3rules Sonar Guy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sailing the Seas of Lies Posts: 393 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I'd love to see an SDK! lights a candle to St. Guijuelo