Quick question : anyone getting freezes with GWX 1.02?

JScones · 03-01-07, 06:09 PM

GWX Patch 1.02 was a fix patch - the changes were minor and should not cause CTDs when installed OVER A CLEAN COPY OF GWX (as many players will attest).

If you experience CTDs after installing GWX Patch 1.02, then there are two likely causes:

- you are attempting to load a pre-1.02 career which is simply not compatible with GWX 1.02

- your "base" GWX install was not "clean". Whilst the installer picks up numerous issues, it is impossible for it to pick them all up (just have a look at some of the posts on this forum - if the base GWX install could be stuffed up, it has been in what appears to be every way imaginable).

Thus, the QUICKEST and EASIEST way to move forward is to FULLY REINSTALL SH3 from scratch. That is, roll back SH3Cmdr (if in use), uninstall SH3, DELETE ALL REMAINING SH3 files and folders, and reinstall from scratch, patching to v1.4b before installing GWX and then GWX Patch 1.02.

If your CTDs suddenly disappear, then you know what, or more to the point, who, caused it. If they persist, then alternate causes can be pursued.

On this forum somewhere is a post by me, and there are similar posts by others, advising how to install GWX so that you have a "playing" copy, and a "clean" copy. For there will be more GWX patches (we are working on one now), so prevention is better than cure.

scalelokt · 03-01-07, 11:46 PM

Thanks for the feedback! I'm by no means a computer expert, anytime there is a problem I have to resort strictly to trial and error to find the cause. It seems that with 1.2 I am crashing and with regular GWX I'm not, however if you feel certain that 1.2 isnt causing this then I'll take your word for it. When I reinstalled SH3 it was definitly a clean reinstall, I uninstalled SH3, deleted the folder on the hard drive, the save games, all the mods, everything. So I dont think that would be the cause. However I will keep trying different things and I'll definitly let you all know when I get it figured out just in case any of you have the same problems as me. Thanks again for the feedback, dont think I've ever seen a forum with so many friendly and helpful people!

Vacillator · 03-02-07, 04:14 AM

Just to clarify my original post, my 'events' are not CTDs, they're screen lock-ups hence my use of the term freezes. I posted because I hadn't seen anyone talk about lock-ups, only CTDs.

FWIW I re-loaded up one of my saves which had previously frozen last night, headed towards a large convoy, torpedoed a a couple of ships, dove, evaded a V&W, came back, torpedoed, dove etc. without a freeze. So it doesn't happen all the time.

My problem might be something in what you say JScones - I followed the instructions for a working game not a clean re-install. If the problems persist I now know to try F12 as above or if that doesn't work do a clean re-install, so it's no big hassle.

PS Many thanks JScones for your continuing advice and help, not to mention for Commander, GWX etc.!

The Munster · 03-02-07, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vacillator

Just to clarify my original post, my 'events' are not CTDs, they're screen lock-ups hence my use of the term freezes. I posted because I hadn't seen anyone talk about lock-ups, only CTDs.

FWIW I re-loaded up one of my saves which had previously frozen last night, headed towards a large convoy, torpedoed a a couple of ships, dove, evaded a V&W, came back, torpedoed, dove etc. without a freeze. So it doesn't happen all the time.

My problem might be something in what you say JScones - I followed the instructions for a working game not a clean re-install. If the problems persist I now know to try F12 as above or if that doesn't work do a clean re-install, so it's no big hassle.

PS Many thanks JScones for your continuing advice and help, not to mention for Commander, GWX etc.!

One other thing, do you get freezes when you are using time compression ?
Be very careful using TC1024 especially if you are approaching land, harbour or similar as your screen can lock up and sound will loop.

Captain Nemo · 03-02-07, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScones

If you experience CTDs after installing GWX Patch 1.02, then there are two likely causes:

- you are attempting to load a pre-1.02 career which is simply not compatible with GWX 1.02

Can I just seek some clarification here, I'm currently in mid-patrol and therefore have not yet applied patch 1.02. When I get back to port I intend to install it. Will this break my current career? I thought we could install 1.02 whilst in port without any side effects.

Nemo

melnibonian · 03-02-07, 08:59 AM

Nemo as it is stated in the manual there is a probability that the 1.02 patch will render your current career unusable. That of course is just a probability. My career for example works fine in versions 1.00 and 1.02. My suggestion would be to try the patch and hope for the best.

Vacillator · 03-02-07, 09:13 AM

Nemo
My career worked fine after an in-port patch. It's just that I now get these occasional freezes which I'm now thinking I wouldn't get with a clean re-install + GWX patched to 1.02.
So for my career Kaleun the war is not over, merely interrupted occasionally.

Captain Nemo · 03-02-07, 09:33 AM

Thanks for the replies. I'll just have to hope my career survives the patch.

Nemo

03-02-07, 08:59 AM	#6
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Nemo as it is stated in the manual there is a probability that the 1.02 patch will render your current career unusable. That of course is just a probability. My career for example works fine in versions 1.00 and 1.02. My suggestion would be to try the patch and hope for the best. __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

03-02-07, 09:33 AM	#8
Captain Nemo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 1,144 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the replies. I'll just have to hope my career survives the patch. Nemo __________________ "I'm afraid there is no disguising the fact that King's obsession with the Pacific and the Battle of Washington cost us dear in the Battle of the Atlantic". Sir John Slessor GCB, DSO, MC, DL AOC-in-C Coastal Command RAF ___________________________________________

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03-01-07, 06:09 PM	#1
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	GWX Patch 1.02 was a fix patch - the changes were minor and should not cause CTDs when installed OVER A CLEAN COPY OF GWX (as many players will attest). If you experience CTDs after installing GWX Patch 1.02, then there are two likely causes: - you are attempting to load a pre-1.02 career which is simply not compatible with GWX 1.02 - your "base" GWX install was not "clean". Whilst the installer picks up numerous issues, it is impossible for it to pick them all up (just have a look at some of the posts on this forum - if the base GWX install could be stuffed up, it has been in what appears to be every way imaginable). Thus, the QUICKEST and EASIEST way to move forward is to FULLY REINSTALL SH3 from scratch. That is, roll back SH3Cmdr (if in use), uninstall SH3, DELETE ALL REMAINING SH3 files and folders, and reinstall from scratch, patching to v1.4b before installing GWX and then GWX Patch 1.02. If your CTDs suddenly disappear, then you know what, or more to the point, who, caused it. If they persist, then alternate causes can be pursued. On this forum somewhere is a post by me, and there are similar posts by others, advising how to install GWX so that you have a "playing" copy, and a "clean" copy. For there will be more GWX patches (we are working on one now), so prevention is better than cure.

03-01-07, 11:46 PM	#2
scalelokt Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 400 meters to your right, calculating your speed Posts: 126 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the feedback! I'm by no means a computer expert, anytime there is a problem I have to resort strictly to trial and error to find the cause. It seems that with 1.2 I am crashing and with regular GWX I'm not, however if you feel certain that 1.2 isnt causing this then I'll take your word for it. When I reinstalled SH3 it was definitly a clean reinstall, I uninstalled SH3, deleted the folder on the hard drive, the save games, all the mods, everything. So I dont think that would be the cause. However I will keep trying different things and I'll definitly let you all know when I get it figured out just in case any of you have the same problems as me. Thanks again for the feedback, dont think I've ever seen a forum with so many friendly and helpful people!

03-02-07, 04:14 AM	#3
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just to clarify my original post, my 'events' are not CTDs, they're screen lock-ups hence my use of the term freezes. I posted because I hadn't seen anyone talk about lock-ups, only CTDs. FWIW I re-loaded up one of my saves which had previously frozen last night, headed towards a large convoy, torpedoed a a couple of ships, dove, evaded a V&W, came back, torpedoed, dove etc. without a freeze. So it doesn't happen all the time. My problem might be something in what you say JScones - I followed the instructions for a working game not a clean re-install. If the problems persist I now know to try F12 as above or if that doesn't work do a clean re-install, so it's no big hassle. PS Many thanks JScones for your continuing advice and help, not to mention for Commander, GWX etc.!

03-02-07, 09:13 AM	#7
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nemo My career worked fine after an in-port patch. It's just that I now get these occasional freezes which I'm now thinking I wouldn't get with a clean re-install + GWX patched to 1.02. So for my career Kaleun the war is not over, merely interrupted occasionally.